Why do people act like Floyd is in a league of his own?

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  • MRCHOKEaMF
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    #81
    And he has the top 3 All Time selling PPV's probably top 5, Youre forced to ask yourself, WHO? has a comparable all time resume considering record, and fighting so many champions (more than anyone in history), earnings, and skill?
    Its a fair question.

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      #82
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Like I said he won't fight a defensive minded southpaw because his reflexes have been on the slide for 5 years now and he hasn't the offense. His offense ain't great all he has is an underused jab and a single right hand for years. Its been about 6 years since he went to the body or threw a left hook or put a combination together. A great fighter in any era but one who has shined on careful matchmaking and being in the right places at the right times taking full advantage of himself being the face of boxing.
      His style is perfect for guys who stand off and offensive southpaws because they're so open for the right hand.

      Could you imagine if Rigondeaux was his size? He'd expose him for what he really is. Completely neutralise him and shut him out. It wouldn't be remotely competitive. You'd see the difference between a very good amateur and the best.
      I really do pity anybody that thinks Floyd would outbox Rigondeaux.

      You can say Rigondeaux gets dropped, off balance or not but how many times have you ever seen him remotely bothered by a right hand? How many times you even seen him take a clean right hand?
      How often do you see Lara hit by a right hand?
      Let me tell you this, you will never see either guy outside of some major b.s lose to anybody who doesn't have a great jab and left hook.
      They might struggle with a Mexican style not an American amateur style.

      Floyd has no left hook, that is why he has avoided every defensive southpaw imaginable.

      He wouldn't even fight Lara who might struggle against big pressure fighters with big left hooks but that isn't Floyd.

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      • TyrantT316
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        #83
        Why are we comparing an older and more preservation mode Mayweather to hungry lions looking to build their name? Compare them to Floyd when Floyd was in the position they are currently in, trying to build his name.

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        Because he's been a great fighter in the forefront of boxing for the past 15+ years. Rigo and Lomachenko have just recently come to the forefront of boxing regardless of how great of amateurs they've been. Mayweather has been going pro and doing this for longer and therefor he is more known and talked about.

        It's clear that Rigo, Gonzales and Lomachenko are awesome and skilled talents. No one is saying they aren't. Many are just more familiar with Mayweather and his long pro career compared to theirs. But remember we're not comparing a 38 year old Mayweather based on fights vs Maidana I, Pacquiao, etc to 27 year old Lomachenko and Roman Gonzalez. Rigo is 34 with a long background, but has been asked to take more risks himself.

        An 18-25 year old Floyd is better to compare to other 20-27 year olds.

        I also believe Mayweather is at a point in his career where he doesn't need to "prove" himself. He's not TRYING to make a name for himself for a big payday. He's comfortable. He doesn't "need to impress" the audience, promoters, networks, fans, etc to "get the big fights". He doesn't need to fight to impress for the ratings. HE'S ALREADY IN THAT POSITION and is 38. He fights more for preservation and making money. He doesn't need to take risks. Rigo is being asked to push the action if he wants to be more marketable. Lomachenko is young and trying to prove himself. Triple G is trying to make the big fights and become a mega star. Floyd is chilling in silk sheets and doesn't have the need or urgency that those guys need as they build their pro careers. It's natural to see a great fighter in the twilight of his career and not be as impressed by him as much. You need to look at Floyd from like 1996.



        Don't expect Floyd to change. At 38, rich, a star and already cemented as a HOFer, he doesn't need to.
        Last edited by TyrantT316; 06-03-2015, 09:24 AM.

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        • hugh grant
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          #84
          Nobody thinks hes in a league of his won. If he was in league of his own why did Cotto think Pac would beat Floyd? Why did Maidana think Pac would beat Floyd? Because Maidana didn't think FLoyd was that good and was overated.

          As a businessman he is in a class all by himself.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            I dig Loma & Rigo, but they've done **** in the pro game compared to Mayweather.

            I think anyone who's had an exceptional career like Mayweather & been top 3 P4P for virtually their whole career would & should be considered in a league of their own.
            Exactly,i dont know why people mention them along with Mayweather

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              #86
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Nobody thinks hes in a league of his won. If he was in league of his own why did Cotto think Pac would beat Floyd? Why did Maidana think Pac would beat Floyd? Because Maidana didn't think FLoyd was that good and was overated.

              As a businessman he is in a class all by himself.
              Yet everyone you posted LOST to Mayweather

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                #87
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Nobody thinks hes in a league of his won. If he was in league of his own why did Cotto think Pac would beat Floyd? Why did Maidana think Pac would beat Floyd? Because Maidana didn't think FLoyd was that good and was overated.

                As a businessman he is in a class all by himself.
                He proved them, you and anyone picking Manny they were wrong. He proved he was in a league of his own May 2nd. SO as of now, he very much is in a league of his own.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  Yet everyone you posted LOST to Mayweather
                  I laugh everytime I see his sig and his quote that another poster has sigged that if he beats Manny, Mosley and Cotto than Floyd would prove he is an ATG etc etc.

                  Yet here he is still on the usual stuff. LMFAO!!

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #89
                    But people don't think hes in a league of his own. They wouldn't pick him to lose if they thougth he was in a league of his own. They are underestimating him. He is better than people think he is.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      But people don't think hes in a league of his own. They wouldn't pick him to lose if they thougth he was in a league of his own. They are underestimating him. He is better than people think he is.
                      People pick him to lose for reasons other than the skill and talent of his opponent. That doesn't mean he isn't in a league of his own, that means those people have an agenda or are letting how they feel about Floyd get in the way of their objectivity and their ability to use common sense.

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