Comments Thread For: Froch's Promoter: Let's See HBO's Offer For Golovkin

[OnePunch]

It's because they renege the possibility out of hand. They showed no interest in making the Andre Ward fight a few years ago because of "financial sense". They said that Gennady would need it to be PPV and would need a "huge chunk" of the revenue.

If they'd simply yielded in a similar fashion to Kovalev and beat Ward, they'd have a PPV star on their hands already.

I guarantee they want some of the UK revenue against Froch otherwise they won't take the fight. They're not willing to do what Kovalev and Duva did.....which is fair enough, he has a bigger chance of losing to Froch or Ward and his team know that.

you cant make a fight without the necessary revenue. Whats the point in babbling on and on about a fight that everyone knows cant be made because there isnt enough money. The fight would need PPV to be a reality, and neither GGG nor Ward can carry a PPV at this point. Why is that so hard to understand? Should I use smaller words?


Also: Please detail any offers from Ward in reference to the GGG fight that were presented to K2 in the past 2 years.

Since there arent any, does that mean Ward is ducking GGG?

[daggum]

It's because they renege the possibility out of hand. They showed no interest in making the Andre Ward fight a few years ago because of "financial sense". They said that Gennady would need it to be PPV and would need a "huge chunk" of the revenue.

If they'd simply yielded in a similar fashion to Kovalev and beat Ward, they'd have a PPV star on their hands already.

I guarantee they want some of the UK revenue against Froch otherwise they won't take the fight. They're not willing to do what Kovalev and Duva did.....which is fair enough, he has a bigger chance of losing to Froch or Ward and his team know that.

you think beating ward=ppv star? no. is kovalev a ppv star now?

kovalev took a 33 percent split against hopkins, not getting any uk revenue would probably be around 5-10 percent judging by how much froch made last fight and how much hbo money there is. how is that the same? i'm sure golovkin will happily take a 33 percent split.

[Clegg]

Is HBO really the determining factor here? From what I read, Froch made £8M for the Groves rematch. So if he's looking for that kind of payday then ultimately it will come down to how much the fight can generate in the UK because I can't see HBO offering Froch even a quarter of that for this fight, especially if it's going to take place in the UK at a time of day that suits a British audience.

[NEETzsche]

Is HBO really the determining factor here? From what I read, Froch made £8M for the Groves rematch. So if he's looking for that kind of payday then ultimately it will come down to how much the fight can generate in the UK because I can't see HBO offering Froch even a quarter of that for this fight, especially if it's going to take place in the UK at a time of day that suits a British audience.

hbo is the determining factor because froch would probably draw roughly the same amount of revenue from british sources regardless of who he faced. for golovkin to get his nose in front of the pack he'll have to bring something extra to the table

[daggum]

hbo is the determining factor because froch would probably draw roughly the same amount of revenue from british sources regardless of who he faced. for golovkin to get his nose in front of the pack he'll have to bring something extra to the table

that's not true. he wouldn't sell out wembley fighting najibi mohammadi. he wouldn't even fight in wembley. it takes two fighters to make a big fight. something that A-sides pretend isn't reality. froch's big fight options are degale or ggg. Froch should really be talking to degale if he wants to compare numbers but then again froch said hes motivated by fighting ggg and not degale so its not all about money.

[LacedUp]

Is HBO really the determining factor here? From what I read, Froch made £8M for the Groves rematch. So if he's looking for that kind of payday then ultimately it will come down to how much the fight can generate in the UK because I can't see HBO offering Froch even a quarter of that for this fight, especially if it's going to take place in the UK at a time of day that suits a British audience.

Hearn already said Froch could make exactly the same if not more fighting Degale or Kessler. Why fight Golovkin? Especially if he's considering retiring anyway.

He's well within his rights to say he wants a payday on level with the Groves fight if he's to fight Golovkin, otherwise he might as well fight a potentially less damaging fight in Ward or Degale.

Clearly HBO needs to get in their pockets if they want Froch-GGG - But are they willing to? I don't think so.

[sicko]

Good luck getting this done if they expect HBO to foot the bill.

HBO would much rather make more CHEAP EXCITING MISMATCHES!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

you cant make a fight without the necessary revenue. Whats the point in babbling on and on about a fight that everyone knows cant be made because there isnt enough money. The fight would need PPV to be a reality, and neither GGG nor Ward can carry a PPV at this point. Why is that so hard to understand? Should I use smaller words?


Also: Please detail any offers from Ward in reference to the GGG fight that were presented to K2 in the past 2 years.

Since there arent any, does that mean Ward is ducking GGG?

The revenue was there if Golovkin was willing to yield in the same way Kovalev did. He wasn't hence my original post.

[bojangles1987]

It's because they renege the possibility out of hand. They showed no interest in making the Andre Ward fight a few years ago because of "financial sense". They said that Gennady would need it to be PPV and would need a "huge chunk" of the revenue.

If they'd simply yielded in a similar fashion to Kovalev and beat Ward, they'd have a PPV star on their hands already.

I guarantee they want some of the UK revenue against Froch otherwise they won't take the fight. They're not willing to do what Kovalev and Duva did.....which is fair enough, he has a bigger chance of losing to Froch or Ward and his team know that.

That wasn't a few years ago, that was...last year? Maybe even this year. I'm not sure. It wasn't that long ago when Golovkin's people said that. And Ward has actually said the exact same thing about a Golovkin fight, that he wants it to be PPV.

[Barcham]

It's because they renege the possibility out of hand. They showed no interest in making the Andre Ward fight a few years ago because of "financial sense". They said that Gennady would need it to be PPV and would need a "huge chunk" of the revenue.

If they'd simply yielded in a similar fashion to Kovalev and beat Ward, they'd have a PPV star on their hands already.

I guarantee they want some of the UK revenue against Froch otherwise they won't take the fight. They're not willing to do what Kovalev and Duva did.....which is fair enough, he has a bigger chance of losing to Froch or Ward and his team know that.

You do realize that Froch and Hearn turned down the fight in the past when they approached HBO to make it a PPV which HBO refused then Froch's camp refused it if the fight was not on PPV, don't you? I have actually seen people use that to claim that GGG and his people refused the fight because HBO would not make it PPV.

As for Ward... well there simply is NO money in a Ward fight for anyone at this time. For a GGG - Ward fight to be made on HBO, to be able to pay Ward his asking price Golovkin would have to fight for nothing and pay part of Ward's purse out of his own bank account.