Comments Thread For: Froch's Promoter: Let's See HBO's Offer For Golovkin

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That wasn't a few years ago, that was...last year? Maybe even this year. I'm not sure. It wasn't that long ago when Golovkin's people said that. And Ward has actually said the exact same thing about a Golovkin fight, that he wants it to be PPV.

It was around the time Ward had just beaten Rodriguez and the press started asking him about Golovkin. Golovkin's people wanted some kind of parity with Ward even though he was clearly the bigger name at the time. Now maybe it needs PPV because Golovkin's name has grown.

You do realize that Froch and Hearn turned down the fight in the past when they approached HBO to make it a PPV which HBO refused then Froch's camp refused it if the fight was not on PPV, don't you? I have actually seen people use that to claim that GGG and his people refused the fight because HBO would not make it PPV.

Are you trying to do a comparison between GGG and Froch? Froch made £9million sterling for his last fight. GGG just cracked his first million dollars.

They are in two completely different leagues when it comes to who can demand what.

[bojangles1987]

It was around the time Ward had just beaten Rodriguez and the press started asking him about Golovkin. Golovkin's people wanted some kind of parity with Ward even though he was clearly the bigger name at the time. Now maybe it needs PPV because Golovkin's name has grown.

I don't remember that. I remember the "financial sense" talk was really recent.

I don't think Golovkin's people are going to look to Ward unless they have literally no other worthwhile options, so it really doesn't matter who says what. Actions speak louder than words.

[Barcham]

It was around the time Ward had just beaten Rodriguez and the press started asking him about Golovkin. Golovkin's people wanted some kind of parity with Ward even though he was clearly the bigger name at the time. Now maybe it needs PPV because Golovkin's name has grown.



Are you trying to do a comparison between GGG and Froch? Froch made £9million sterling for his last fight. GGG just cracked his first million dollars.

They are in two completely different leagues when it comes to who can demand what.

The reason a Ward - GGG fight would have to be PPV is because that would be the only possible way to afford the purses being demanded. There is no way that it would fit into HBO's normal boxing budget.

I am not trying to make any comparisons between Froch and GGG. I am simply stating a fact. Froch wants to fight in the US and he wants to be on PPV. Unfortunately for him, he is not a PPV draw in the US and neither is GGG at this time. This is why he was previously aiming for a Chavez Jr. fight as I believe HBO was willing to make that a PPV event. Froch has an overinflated sense of self worth when it comes to his value in the US sports market. He may well be a superstar in the UK but in the US more people would pay to see Justin Bieber fight Orlando Bloom.

[Weebler I]

if i'm golovkin i say i'm willing to take $1.5m and let froch have everything else his own way. it's an investment

I wouldn't, when you're getting $1.5m to fight Monroe, you'd surely want more money stepping up a weight class to fight Froch. If things go badly, it could be your last.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The reason a Ward - GGG fight would have to be PPV is because that would be the only possible way to afford the purses being demanded. There is no way that it would fit into HBO's normal boxing budget.

My point is that it would have if GGG had been willing to take the shorter end of the money the way Kovalev did against Hopkins. His team weren't willing to do that.

I am not trying to make any comparisons between Froch and GGG. I am simply stating a fact. Froch wants to fight in the US and he wants to be on PPV. Unfortunately for him, he is not a PPV draw in the US and neither is GGG at this time. This is why he was previously aiming for a Chavez Jr. fight as I believe HBO was willing to make that a PPV event. Froch has an overinflated sense of self worth when it comes to his value in the US sports market. He may well be a superstar in the UK but in the US more people would pay to see Justin Bieber fight Orlando Bloom.

Incorrect. He just wants Golovkin to bring something to the table from the US market. At this point, Carl Froch is bringing all the money from the UK and Golovkin isn't bringing very much of anything....so why should he fight him?

He could fight DeGale or someone else and make similar money. Or just retire.

[-Kev-]

I wouldn't, when you're getting $1.5m to fight Monroe, you'd surely want more money stepping up a weight class to fight Froch. If things go badly, it could be your last.

But isn't GGG being ducked by everyone? I mean all I ever see him and his people do is talk about money. Lara is about money, Ward is about money, now Froch will also be only if he gets more money than he did vs Monroe? The Chavez Jr fight GGG wanted was solely for money. He wants Canelo and Cotto not because they are the best P4P fighters or the best MW's, but because of money. He wants Mayweather, not for the challenge, but because of money. If you agree with this, and let's stop painting GGG as a guy who would actually fight anyone and just can't get fights because he is feared.

[NEETzsche]

But isn't GGG being ducked by everyone? I mean all I ever see him and his people do is talk about money. Lara is about money, Ward is about money, now Froch will also be only if he gets more money than he did vs Monroe? The Chavez Jr fight GGG wanted was solely for money. He wants Canelo and Cotto not because they are the best P4P fighters or the best MW's, but because of money. He wants Mayweather, not for the challenge, but because of money. If you agree with this, and let's stop painting GGG as a guy who would actually fight anyone and just can't get fights because he is feared.

it's not just about fattening his wallet, it's about building his market value so that certain fighters (cough miguel cotto) will actually consider getting in the ring with him. if he fights froch and wins, his market value will increase and an andre ward fight could then potentially be put on pay-per-view

[Mr.Daddy]

You mean like how Golovkin's team said they would KO everyone from 54-`68 but won't fight Ward. Or how they say the Lara fight is possible but then never attempt to make it happen.

"Blowhards"

It wasn't GGG speaking; it was Abel Sanchez; however, it was Froch speaking about being interested in fighting GGG, and that is a significant difference. Also, for the record - if Ward and GGG ever fight, my feeling is that GGG stops Ward. Ward simply won't be able to survive the punishment that GGG dishes out.

[joseph5620]

But isn't GGG being ducked by everyone? I mean all I ever see him and his people do is talk about money. Lara is about money, Ward is about money, now Froch will also be only if he gets more money than he did vs Monroe? The Chavez Jr fight GGG wanted was solely for money. He wants Canelo and Cotto not because they are the best P4P fighters or the best MW's, but because of money. He wants Mayweather, not for the challenge, but because of money. If you agree with this, and let's stop painting GGG as a guy who would actually fight anyone and just can't get fights because he is feared.

This is what I always find to be contradicting when it comes to the Golovkin sycophants.

[zerosixthree]

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This is what I always find to be contradicting when it comes to the Golovkin sycophants.

Be fair. It's hardly unique to Golovkin fans.