Floyd Mayweather vs Roberto Duran @ 147

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  • Ahmed_Ismail
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    #31
    Originally posted by Gucci
    truth is its a 50/50 fight. Whoever night it is that night is gonna win. Duran is better then Castillo and Maidana who arguably beat Mayweather the first time around.
    You're right about the style matchup, Duran would have a chance because of his style but Floyd's style is also very difficult for Duran considering Floyd's foot movement, defense and counterpunching ability, at these departments he's much better than Leonard and Leonard managed to outbox Duran and make him look very bad. Leonard lost the first fight cuz Duran got into his mind before the fight and Leonard wanted to stand and trade instead of move and box, and he paid the price, Leonard was only 23 with like 26 fights and Duran was 29-30 with 70+ fights, so u can make an argument that Duran had a huge experience edge vs Leonard who was one of the best at the time but he was still kinda green.

    Any person that doesn't deprive himself from sleep, water and oxygen could see that Floyd beat Maidana the first fight, yeah it was a bad performance by Mayweather in the first half of the fight, but starting from the 6th Floyd won every round, maybe the 8th was even and Floyd also won the 2nd round easily, btw Floyd was 37 years old and Maidana was 30, a 30 year old Duran would beat a 37 year old Mayweather in a close fight, I'm talking about 28-30 year old Mayweather vs 29 year old Duran who fought Leonard.

    Mayweather was also injured in the first Castillo fight and he showed what he could really do in the rematch.

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    • Luilun
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      #32
      If C level Madaina and C level Castillo put a world of hurt and beat Floyd A Plus Duran beats him to a pulp Duran was able to beat Barkley, Moore, Leonard, Bentinez, Cueavas and go 15 rounds with one of history's best middleweight how in the puck does catch weight 152 Floyd beat Duran? Floyd is in the right era had he fought Sugar Ray he would have met the same fate his dad did loss by Ko and Duran knocks his ****** azz too

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
        Floyd came all the way up from 130 to 154 and won titles in both weight classes and the weight classes in between, Duran moved up from 135 to 160 and did the same, no difference to me, Floyd moved up 24 pounds and Duran moved up 25.
        Duran moved up to 168. But never won a world title.
        Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
        Or he could get outboxed, embarrassed and say no mas after 8 rounds. Once Leonard started moving and fighting a smart fight Duran saw no way to beat him, and Floyd's foot movement, defense and counterpunching is much better than Leonard, Leonard tried to use offense and heart in the first fight and he lost cuz he played Duran's dame, Floyd won't do that.

        Leonard outboxing Duran is the closest thing we can imagine to Floyd vs Duran. But really, Leonard was a big welter in his prime who threw big power punches when Duran attacked him.
        Floyd doesnt do that, he throws fast scoring right hands. No power. I think Duran quit because he was being clowned and he was feeling Leonards punches. Floyd might frustrate Duran, but his punches wouldnt hurt Duran at all.

        I think on the ropes Duran would do some damage, and his speed in the middle of the ring could trouble Floyd to an extent. But also Floyd has the ability to outbox Duran.
        Duran who beat Leonard (motivated, in shape, fast, aggressive, smart) beats Floyd at 147. But its a very close fight.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Luilun
          If C level Madaina and C level Castillo put a world of hurt and beat Floyd A Plus Duran beats him to a pulp Duran was able to beat Barkley, Moore, Leonard, Bentinez, Cueavas and go 15 rounds with one of history's best middleweight how in the puck does catch weight 152 Floyd beat Duran? Floyd is in the right era had he fought Sugar Ray he would have met the same fate his dad did loss by Ko and Duran knocks his ****** azz too
          Triangle theories don't really work in boxing.

          Castillo wasn't a C class fighter either.

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          • Luilun
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
            Floyd came all the way up from 130 to 154 and won titles in both weight classes and the weight classes in between, Duran moved up from 135 to 160 and did the same, no difference to me, Floyd moved up 24 pounds and Duran moved up 25.
            Duran wasn't a catch weight B1tch, back in those days there was no 130 so Floyd would have to start at 135. Back in thoses days you could retire to avoid the best nor hand pick opponents so pluck Floyd

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              #36
              Originally posted by Pugilist95
              Triangle theories don't really work in boxing.

              Castillo wasn't a C class fighter either.
              He was the best lightweight in the world.

              I think Duran beats Floyd at lightweight but at 147 Floyd wins.

              Mayweather is the master of playing tag and winning rounds, all his does is land a few punches then avoids/hugs takes time off the clock. It's not pleasing to watch sometimes but it's very effective and smart. It also takes some serious talent to dodge some of the punches he does by inches.

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              • Ahmed_Ismail
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                #37
                Originally posted by Luilun
                If C level Madaina and C level Castillo put a world of hurt and beat Floyd A Plus Duran beats him to a pulp Duran was able to beat Barkley, Moore, Leonard, Bentinez, Cueavas and go 15 rounds with one of history's best middleweight how in the puck does catch weight 152 Floyd beat Duran? Floyd is in the right era had he fought Sugar Ray he would have met the same fate his dad did loss by Ko and Duran knocks his ****** azz too
                Calling Maidana and Castillo, 2 division/time world champions, C level fighters shows how much you know about boxing: NOTHING!

                Again I wasn't suggesting a fight between prime Duran vs 37 year old Floyd Mayweather who fought Maidana, or Mayweather with a torn rotator cuff, I'm talking about a healthy 28-30 year old Floyd Mayweather.
                Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 05-26-2015, 01:49 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Luilun
                  Duran wasn't a catch weight B1tch, back in those days there was no 130 so Floyd would have to start at 135. Back in thoses days you could retire to avoid the best nor hand pick opponents so pluck Floyd
                  Jr lightweight has been around since before Duran turned pro.

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                  • Ahmed_Ismail
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    Duran wasn't a catch weight B1tch, back in those days there was no 130 so Floyd would have to start at 135. Back in thoses days you could retire to avoid the best nor hand pick opponents so pluck Floyd
                    Floyd would've started at 126, he fought at 126 in the olympics right before he turned pro.

                    Handpick opponents? 25 title fights? 8 of his last 10 opponents were champions, lineal champ at all the weights he fought at.

                    Duran was also great, but he was 12-7 in title fights, his run at lightweight was good but a lot of his fights there weren't title fights and they were against relatively poor competition.

                    Out of 48 fights Floyd fought at a catchweight 2 times, once was offered by his opponent and the other was after a 2 year layoff against the no. 2 P4P fighter in the world who arguably beat Manny Pacquiao a year earlier.

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                      #40
                      Watch Duran vs. Benitez. Out of all the fighters mentioned in this thread, the one that resembles floyd the most is Benitez. Ppl have said leonard and others. But that's the prototypical fight and at about the right weight as well. Hard to see floyd losing to duran at welter.

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