Which match up is worse? Brook-Gavin or Khan-Algieri?

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    #81
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    The extra round and fewer days is definitely harder. Many amateurs who fought in both said the world championships were harder. All I'm saying is that without the glamour etc it is not really a more impressive feat to win the Olympics in boxing terms.

    Well if you look at the fighters who go into the last 16 of the Olympics - they are usually the same as the WCs. But in between they would have a hard fight on top of the one they had in the Olympics. Fighting every couple of days is hard man - especially for Brits as they aren't used to that.

    One of the reasons why the Russians and the Cubans are so successful in the amateurs is exactly down to that point. They have 100s of fights and do a lot of tournaments. the UK system is completely different which is why we aren't prepared to fight 5 times in a short space of time.

    Look at David Haye in 2001. He was leading Solis in the final - but then completely gassed because he wasn't used to the system whereas Solis were.
    Great points.

    A lot of times the most obvious thing is not the right one. Off topic example, but you get many people thinking Sydney is the capital of Australia for instance.

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    • alexguiness
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      #82
      Both fights are horrible for different reasons.

      Frankie Gavin is not a world class fighter and is awful to watch with no charisma or personality.

      He brings nothing from an entertainment perspective OR a competitive element.

      Chris Algieri is just about world class at 140 (thanks to the Prov win) has some(weird) personality and brings a bit more to the table in terms of the level of opposition he has faced.

      The key here is Khan - his decision to duck Brook was the catalyst for both fights.

      Otherwise we would be looking forward to a Mega fight at Wembley Stadium instead of this steaming pile of dog ****.

      Khan is ****ting on your plates and telling you its ice cream.

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        #83
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        The extra round and fewer days is definitely harder. Many amateurs who fought in both said the world championships were harder. All I'm saying is that without the glamour etc it is not really a more impressive feat to win the Olympics in boxing terms.

        Well if you look at the fighters who go into the last 16 of the Olympics - they are usually the same as the WCs. But in between they would have a hard fight on top of the one they had in the Olympics. Fighting every couple of days is hard man - especially for Brits as they aren't used to that.

        One of the reasons why the Russians and the Cubans are so successful in the amateurs is exactly down to that point. They have 100s of fights and do a lot of tournaments. the UK system is completely different which is why we aren't prepared to fight 5 times in a short space of time.

        Look at David Haye in 2001. He was leading Solis in the final - but then completely gassed because he wasn't used to the system whereas Solis were.
        Fun Facts: Gavin was 100-21 in the amateurs and lost to one of the greatest amateur boxers ever in Mario Kindelan. Khan was 101-9, Amir also won the junior world championships (couldnt enter actual one as he was 16/17) and then also lost to Mario Kindelan in the olympic final. He then avenged it in the Reebok stadium a year later before turning pro.

        -Khan won his first world title at the age of 22 years, 7 months and 10 days. He become Great Britain's third-youngest world champion after Naseem Hamed (21 years, 7 months and 18 days) and Herbie Hide (22 years, 6 months and 20 days)
        Last edited by SalimShady1212; 05-26-2015, 07:36 AM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Salim_Shady
          He still technically said that, "Brook Algieri is not a bad fight". Brook said in an interview today straight after talking about his Gavin fight that Khan is taking an easy way out looool.

          How Brook can say Khan has had it the easy way is beyond me and if you believe him; you are deluded. Also, stop saying you're a Khan fan because the slandering you're doing, you clearly no longer are a "fan". Fans show support and provide constructive criticism, not abuse.
          You must be an absolute ****** then because he's taking the easy way having ducked the Brook fight. Brook said it's a safe fight which is exactly what is is. Algieri is a decent fighter but he can't punch for **** which is why Khan puussied out and chose to fight him.

          What part of that can't you get? We're not getting Brook-Khan and Wembley because of Khan. It's that simple.

          You sucking off Khan at every opportunity doesn't make you a "true fan". And I'm pretty sure I know why you defend Khan at every opportunity. And it's nothing to do with boxing.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Salim_Shady
            At the end of the day, like I've said that Khan is a top bloke and we'll see where they both are in 18 months time. Can't wait for him to put an end to Kell Brook once and for all for more than $3 million. Now instead of worrying about Khan's "delicate whiskers" focus on something more productive like how to make millions yourself. There's more to life than slating professional fighters who put their life on the line on forums.
            If you "can't wait", why aren't you annoyed that Queen Khan puusied out of fighting him in a couple of weeks time? Doesn't make sense. Oh wait it does "Salim" Shady....

            He would have made 4 times what he's making to fight Chris the Kickboxer, not $3million. Again, pulling lies out your arse to try to justify Khan being a b1tch.

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              #86
              Originally posted by HEND
              Brook-Gavin is obviously worse but Brook at least wanted to fight Khan before he chose Gavin but Khan (Haymon) ducked that and chose Algieri.
              However Brook could easily took on Thurman, Bradley, Chavez. All of them would be better than Algieri. And after they picked Gavin Hearn had the nerves to say that they will fight Rios after it...
              The only possible one there is Diego Chaves and Gavin made more sense because the British public know who he is. You do know Eddie Hearn is already paying guys like Gradovich and Linares a tonne of money to come to the UK to defend their titles. How the hell was he going to pay Thurman or Bradley who wouldn't have even been allowed to come over at such short notice or at all by their respective promoters.

              What's wrong with the Rios fight? You just said Chaves is a good opponent but not Rios?

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                #87
                Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                Fun Facts: Gavin was 100-21 in the amateurs and lost to one of the greatest amateur boxers ever in Mario Kindelan. Khan was 101-9, Amir also won the junior world championships (couldnt enter actual one as he was 16/17) and then also lost to Mario Kindelan in the olympic final. He then avenged it in the Reebok stadium a year later before turning pro.

                -Khan won his first world title at the age of 22 years, 7 months and 10 days. He become Great Britain's third-youngest world champion after Naseem Hamed (21 years, 7 months and 18 days) and Herbie Hide (22 years, 6 months and 20 days)
                This guy is literally going to start comparing length and girth soon.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  You must be an absolute ****** then because he's taking the easy way having ducked the Brook fight. Brook said it's a safe fight which is exactly what is is. Algieri is a decent fighter but he can't punch for **** which is why Khan puussied out and chose to fight him.

                  What part of that can't you get? We're not getting Brook-Khan and Wembley because of Khan. It's that simple.

                  You sucking off Khan at every opportunity doesn't make you a "true fan". And I'm pretty sure I know why you defend Khan at every opportunity. And it's nothing to do with boxing.
                  You're an absolutely deluded spastic, in terms of their careers as a whole you ******. We'll see where they are in 18 months. Now shut it Dork, I mean Dirk. Yes I will stand by Khan, I know him in person so why wouldn't I? ******. When the fight does happen, put all your points on the line and I'll give you 10-1 odds you arrogant ****.
                  Last edited by SalimShady1212; 05-26-2015, 10:16 AM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                    You're an absolutely deluded spastic, in terms of their careers as a whole you ******. We'll see where they are in 18 months. Now shut it Dork, I mean Dirk. Yes I will stand by Khan, I know him in person so why wouldn't I? ******. When the fight does happen, put all your points on the line and I'll give you 10-1 odds you arrogant ****.
                    I have been picking Khan since day one but I didn't realise he was so scared of losing.

                    That explains its, you're so far up his arse, you can't see straight. Why would anyone take you seriously? You've literally been close enough to Khan to suck his **** so who can be surprised that you do it on here?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I have been picking Khan since day one but I didn't realise he was so scared of losing.

                      That explains its, you're so far up his arse, you can't see straight. Why would anyone take you seriously? You've literally been close enough to Khan to suck his **** so who can be surprised that you do it on here?
                      Haha good one faggot

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