Which match up is worse? Brook-Gavin or Khan-Algieri?

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  • LacedUp
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    #61
    Originally posted by Box-Office
    Admit what?

    Yeah and I thought Sir Joe blocking him and Carl crying over it was funny. This is the same Froch who PMs abuse to critics and then blocks them lol.

    Comprehension is key. I said "above" British level. Why would I say that when he was already a British Champion?



    Which European level fighter did he box before Pascal?

    You telling others they don't understand is really lolz. You become a mandatory by climbing the rankings of wait for it the alphabet orgs. Why bring that up as a leverage to add credibility to your argument when you **** on that same thing when it doesn't suit you?

    ****ting on Collazo for being WBA top 10 then bragging about Froch being a mandatory. Yet you claim alphabet orgs are etc etc.
    That you don't like Froch because he takes some digs at Khan.

    I didn't see you said "above British level" - that's my mistake.

    He fought Sergey Tatevosya who had just gone 12 rounds with Bute and Pirog and he flattened him in 2. he had fought for WB.. something title and european titles before. Then, he took on former world champion Robin Reid - A fight I was ringside for Btw. Great fight.

    Dude, you don't understand. I didn't "sht" on Collazo - I told you it was ******ed to call him a top 10 contender based on some bs ranking. It would be the same as me saying Christian Hammer is top 5 heavyweight based on his ranking with WBO. Do you see how ******ed that sounds?

    I said Froch was his mando because he was. I didn't say Froch was #1 supermiddleweight though he was ranked #6 by RING by the time he was mando for Joe.

    The two are not similar scenarios. I didn't go around saying Froch was the best SMW not named Calzaghe because of his ranking with WBC.

    Alphabet rankings are sht. Everyone knows it except for you. Let's have a look at your WBA rankings shall we?

    1 ANDRE BERTO INTERIM CHAMP USA
    2 AMIR KHAN GBR
    3 MARCOS RENE MAIDANA ARG
    4 SHAWN PORTER USA
    5 TEERECHAI KRATINGDAENGGYM THA
    6 TIMOTHY BRADLEY USA
    7 SADAM ALI INT USA
    8 JOHAN PEREZ NABA VEN
    9 DIEGO CHAVES ARG
    10 ROBERT GUERRERO

    I mean

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    • LacedUp
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      #62
      Originally posted by Freedom.
      The feather-fisted Algieri is very overrated. After his very poor showing against a faded Pacquiao, he seems a pathetic choice of opponent for Khan.

      Gavin is a tough kid with an excellent amateur pedigree, he's only had one close decision loss.

      The poll result makes no sense, Brook's domestic rival Gavin is the better opponent.
      I don't even think anybody rates Algieri.

      Even Khan said he was C- before Pacquiao. It's not like Algieri's performance against the pacman increased that rating.

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      • kdee
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        #63
        Originally posted by Salim_Shady
        And why has Khan had more opportunities? Because he was an amateur stand out and Silver medalist at 17, he had more talent than Brook and rightfully gets given those opportunities. Khan earned those oppertunities and has certainly not had it "easy". If Brook was as good as Khan in the amateurs, he would have had those opportunities.

        And for the record, I've never said a bad word about Brook. I've supported him in every fight and will do excluding any Khan fight.
        Well thats why everyone says 'hyped', even back in 2005 thats what people were saying. Remember he didn't win a gold and they setup some fake psuedo championship that was like the fakest thing ever with Kindelan before Khan went Pro. He had a lot more hype than Brook before he did as much by miles. They fast tracked Khan until he got picked up in america. He was fighting out of prime fighters and Maidana had to wait a year to get the fight as a mandatory, Khan was going to be stripped of his belt but luckily he won that.

        A true fighter would avenge their losses, Prescott, Garcia.

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        • Cut Man
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          #64
          Both are BS. We all know the fight that should be happening and it's Khan Vs Brook in London with the winner fighting Floyd in September

          But that didn't happen because Khan is a *****

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            #65
            Originally posted by Freedom.
            The feather-fisted Algieri is very overrated. After his very poor showing against a faded Pacquiao, he seems a pathetic choice of opponent for Khan.

            Gavin is a tough kid with an excellent amateur pedigree, he's only had one close decision loss.

            The poll result makes no sense, Brook's domestic rival Gavin is the better opponent.
            Audley Harrison was a Gold Medalist. That guy Nate or whatever who wears a body bag for Mayweather a Bronze Medalist. I'm talking Olympics here not World Amateurs Championships. What has Gavin ever done as a pro besides losing to Bundu?

            Algieri has a win over Ruslan Provodnikov and is a former World Champion. That fight was Upset of the Year by Ring for it's worth.

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            • LacedUp
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              #66
              Originally posted by Box-Office
              Audley Harrison was a Gold Medalist. That guy Nate or whatever who wears a body bag for Mayweather a Bronze Medalist. I'm talking Olympics here not World Amateurs Championships. What has Gavin ever done as a pro besides losing to Bundu?

              Algieri has a win over Ruslan Provodnikov and is a former World Champion. That fight was Upset of the Year by Ring for it's worth.
              What do you think is harder to win? Olympic gold or world championship gold?

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              • Box-Office
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                #67
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                What do you think is harder to win? Olympic gold or world championship gold?
                Obviously the Olympics, why?

                Edit: World Amateurs is a qualifier towards the Olympics. A pit stop. Kind of like asking what is harder to win? England ABAs or the 4 Nations?
                Last edited by Box-Office; 05-26-2015, 01:46 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  That you don't like Froch because he takes some digs at Khan.

                  I didn't see you said "above British level" - that's my mistake.

                  He fought Sergey Tatevosya who had just gone 12 rounds with Bute and Pirog and he flattened him in 2. he had fought for WB.. something title and european titles before. Then, he took on former world champion Robin Reid - A fight I was ringside for Btw. Great fight.

                  Dude, you don't understand. I didn't "sht" on Collazo - I told you it was ******ed to call him a top 10 contender based on some bs ranking. It would be the same as me saying Christian Hammer is top 5 heavyweight based on his ranking with WBO. Do you see how ******ed that sounds?

                  I said Froch was his mando because he was. I didn't say Froch was #1 supermiddleweight though he was ranked #6 by RING by the time he was mando for Joe.

                  The two are not similar scenarios. I didn't go around saying Froch was the best SMW not named Calzaghe because of his ranking with WBC.

                  Alphabet rankings are sht. Everyone knows it except for you. Let's have a look at your WBA rankings shall we?

                  1 ANDRE BERTO INTERIM CHAMP USA
                  2 AMIR KHAN GBR
                  3 MARCOS RENE MAIDANA ARG
                  4 SHAWN PORTER USA
                  5 TEERECHAI KRATINGDAENGGYM THA
                  6 TIMOTHY BRADLEY USA
                  7 SADAM ALI INT USA
                  8 JOHAN PEREZ NABA VEN
                  9 DIEGO CHAVES ARG
                  10 ROBERT GUERRERO

                  I mean
                  Class!

                  Yeah I have made it no secret that I have a disdain for Froch due to his comments towards Khan, but as a fighter I do believe his career being the road warrior and all was a tribute to the sport. I'm not being diplomatic here.

                  However, that thread in particular didn't have anything to do with it. I think Froch crying over being blocked was hilarious. Overall banter was pretty even.

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                  • Lullaby
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                    #69
                    Brook vs Gavin.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Box-Office
                      Obviously the Olympics, why?

                      But I get the feeling you have an ace up your sleeve lol.
                      Because I'd say the world championships is distinctly harder - just has much less prestige - obviously.

                      The same people are fighting in the world championships as in the Olympics, but in the WC there's an extra round in the stages + there's usually less days break between fights.

                      Also, Gavin absolutely was a good amateur. He amongst others beat Aleksei Tishchenko who is like a double olympic gold medalist and overall top top amateur.

                      He didn't breeze his way through easy opposition. He's just not as suited to the pro game as he was the amateurs.
                      Last edited by LacedUp; 05-26-2015, 01:41 AM.

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