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  • Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
    Honestly. Im going to be honest. I dont like him, hes ugly, unappealing, horrible personality, so i try and limit any exposure i give to the wife beating ego maniac. But i judge a guy on his skills, regardless of personality. For example i dont like Amir Khan, but hes one of my favourites as i think hes tremendously talented. When hes on hes on, and there no denying is incredible speed and skill.

    Has Floyd ever done that for me??Nah. The fights ive seen, whether live or on youtube were as follows.

    Castillo-We all agree he lost that one.

    Hatton-got the pay per view. Hatton did terribly well considering he was fighting floyd at a weight class the pundits said he should never fight at. Pus Cortez was disgraceful. however Hatton still caught Floyd a few times despite disadvantages. Not impressed yet.

    ODH-Draw. Crap fight where a past prime fighter was pressing all the action and floyd ducked in his usual awkward way. No one won that fight. Certainly no masterclass.

    Ortiz-Just when i thought the fight was exciting, floyd cheated and pot shotted his last "ko". Pathetic as the fight was quite good untill then.

    Canelo-Fair cop, i scored this 4 rounds victory for Floyd. This is the best ive ever seen him fight personally. Even then though he weight drained a green fighter. But fairs fair, he boxed well imo.

    Maidana fight 1-Draw again. I am not making this up. I Couldnt quite give it to Maidana as he tired in the second half of the fight. So a draw is fair.

    Pacquio fight-i watched this a week later on youtube knowing it would be crap. Again a Draw. No problem floyd getting the nod. Pacquio had one arm, but still landed the better punches. Floyd had the fight he wanted. Bit again, i was not impressed.


    In conclusion, the media keep telling me "genius this and genius that". I dont see it. Lets face it, if he wasnt America he would be like Rigondeux. He just doesnt dominate opponents like say Wladimir Klitschko does. Wlad for 10/11 years has literally barely lost a round, and probably KOED 80-90 percent of his opponents. I never feel wowed by floyd, i never feel appreciated that ive watched something truely great.

    All i see is a very good boxer aming dam sure he had every advantage for the fight and being extremely defensive whilst doing enough to make it tricky for the judges.


    I will not miss him when he retires...
    thanks for your input, good to know

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    • I'm glad we all have opinions because I agree with the TS as I've mentioned the same things numerous times throughout the years.

      Corrales just got out of prison so his head wasn't there, and Gatti wasn't exactly known as a defense specialist. He went life and death with club fighter Micky Ward 3 times. wtf.

      Honestly, the comparison with Rigo is fair. You just have to add in Floyd's big mouth that gets him to piss off enough people to watch him. Obviously he needs that because his style is better than Nyquil.

      Here's the thing. When you think of the all time greats and the great fights they had, there were always some drama or KO's involved. Floyd has NONE of that. Nobody is going to pull up his fight tapes in 20 years to get enjoyment out of them because there is none to be found. I honestly don't know how that can be celebrated.

      You need that defining win on your career that makes you look incredible or "legendary". I haven't seen that yet from Jr. He either has boring UDs or fights that you swing either way but give it to Jr. because he's in the MGM, his home away from his home a few blocks away, lol.

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      • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
        I'm glad we all have opinions because I agree with the TS as I've mentioned the same things numerous times throughout the years.

        Corrales just got out of prison so his head wasn't there, and Gatti wasn't exactly known as a defense specialist. He went life and death with club fighter Micky Ward 3 times. wtf.

        Honestly, the comparison with Rigo is fair. You just have to add in Floyd's big mouth that gets him to piss off enough people to watch him. Obviously he needs that because his style is better than Nyquil.

        Here's the thing. When you think of the all time greats and the great fights they had, there were always some drama or KO's involved. Floyd has NONE of that. Nobody is going to pull up his fight tapes in 20 years to get enjoyment out of them because there is none to be found. I honestly don't know how that can be celebrated.

        You need that defining win on your career that makes you look incredible or "legendary". I haven't seen that yet from Jr. He either has boring UDs or fights that you swing either way but give it to Jr. because he's in the MGM, his home away from his home a few blocks away, lol.
        Why make stuff up?

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        • Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View Post
          opinions are like *******s. everyone has them, but not all *******s stink. yours does.
          LMAO

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          • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
            I'm glad we all have opinions because I agree with the TS as I've mentioned the same things numerous times throughout the years.

            Corrales just got out of prison so his head wasn't there, and Gatti wasn't exactly known as a defense specialist. He went life and death with club fighter Micky Ward 3 times. wtf.

            Honestly, the comparison with Rigo is fair. You just have to add in Floyd's big mouth that gets him to piss off enough people to watch him. Obviously he needs that because his style is better than Nyquil.

            Here's the thing. When you think of the all time greats and the great fights they had, there were always some drama or KO's involved. Floyd has NONE of that. Nobody is going to pull up his fight tapes in 20 years to get enjoyment out of them because there is none to be found. I honestly don't know how that can be celebrated.

            You need that defining win on your career that makes you look incredible or "legendary". I haven't seen that yet from Jr. He either has boring UDs or fights that you swing either way but give it to Jr. because he's in the MGM, his home away from his home a few blocks away, lol.
            Dont forget to mention that he is also the best fighter of his era.

            Because the only conclusion you can come to, based on your own observations, is that he was too good for his peers to give him great fights.

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            • Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
              Honestly. Im going to be honest. I dont like him, hes ugly, unappealing, horrible personality, so i try and limit any exposure i give to the wife beating ego maniac. But i judge a guy on his skills, regardless of personality. For example i dont like Amir Khan, but hes one of my favourites as i think hes tremendously talented. When hes on hes on, and there no denying is incredible speed and skill.

              Has Floyd ever done that for me??Nah. The fights ive seen, whether live or on youtube were as follows.

              Castillo-We all agree he lost that one.

              Hatton-got the pay per view. Hatton did terribly well considering he was fighting floyd at a weight class the pundits said he should never fight at. Pus Cortez was disgraceful. however Hatton still caught Floyd a few times despite disadvantages. Not impressed yet.

              ODH-Draw. Crap fight where a past prime fighter was pressing all the action and floyd ducked in his usual awkward way. No one won that fight. Certainly no masterclass.

              Ortiz-Just when i thought the fight was exciting, floyd cheated and pot shotted his last "ko". Pathetic as the fight was quite good untill then.

              Canelo-Fair cop, i scored this 4 rounds victory for Floyd. This is the best ive ever seen him fight personally. Even then though he weight drained a green fighter. But fairs fair, he boxed well imo.

              Maidana fight 1-Draw again. I am not making this up. I Couldnt quite give it to Maidana as he tired in the second half of the fight. So a draw is fair.

              Pacquio fight-i watched this a week later on youtube knowing it would be crap. Again a Draw. No problem floyd getting the nod. Pacquio had one arm, but still landed the better punches. Floyd had the fight he wanted. Bit again, i was not impressed.


              In conclusion, the media keep telling me "genius this and genius that". I dont see it. Lets face it, if he wasnt America he would be like Rigondeux. He just doesnt dominate opponents like say Wladimir Klitschko does. Wlad for 10/11 years has literally barely lost a round, and probably KOED 80-90 percent of his opponents. I never feel wowed by floyd, i never feel appreciated that ive watched something truely great.

              All i see is a very good boxer aming dam sure he had every advantage for the fight and being extremely defensive whilst doing enough to make it tricky for the judges.


              I will not miss him when he retires...
              He puts a master piece when selecting past prime fighters and draining a dumb fighter who had no business at 152

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              • Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
                Are we just going to ignore the Corrales fight?
                We should not ignore the corrales fight.

                and we should also never ignore that there were no videos of Floyd being randomly drug tested by USADA.

                and we should also never ignore that the random drug test result by USADA in the fight of the Century has not been released yet.

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                • N'dou, Hernandez, Manfredy, Gatti, Corrales, Chop chop, Mitchell, Agustus, Chavez, Zab, etc. These are off the top of my head. The jab and straight to body was a thing beauty back then. The upper cut and springing left hook used to be lethal. Some ppl are just exposing themselves as being new to the sport.

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                  • these pacfanatics are really angry and salty this is hilarious, they are still making threads about floyd daily

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                    • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                      I'm glad we all have opinions because I agree with the TS as I've mentioned the same things numerous times throughout the years.

                      Corrales just got out of prison so his head wasn't there, and Gatti wasn't exactly known as a defense specialist. He went life and death with club fighter Micky Ward 3 times. wtf.

                      Honestly, the comparison with Rigo is fair. You just have to add in Floyd's big mouth that gets him to piss off enough people to watch him. Obviously he needs that because his style is better than Nyquil.

                      Here's the thing. When you think of the all time greats and the great fights they had, there were always some drama or KO's involved. Floyd has NONE of that. Nobody is going to pull up his fight tapes in 20 years to get enjoyment out of them because there is none to be found. I honestly don't know how that can be celebrated.

                      You need that defining win on your career that makes you look incredible or "legendary". I haven't seen that yet from Jr. He either has boring UDs or fights that you swing either way but give it to Jr. because he's in the MGM, his home away from his home a few blocks away, lol.
                      Wow! These #48 fans love pulling all kinds of rabbit lies outta their ass to justify their hate for Floyd.

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