I honestly have never seen Mayweather put on a "masterclass"

[Beater_of_ass]

Ledderman has the added advantage of being part of the HBO crew and getting a glance at the punch stats and comments on something he may of missed.
Sure, not always a good thing but usually it aids in his assessment.

As for retired, those who were judges for that fight are not spring chickens.

Dave Moretti is the go to judge whenever Floyd fights. He gave in his scores before the opening bell but they told him to wait until after (joke) because it would look to obvious. He gave someone like Maidana no credit in fight 1. Yet made him the judge again in fight 2. Still can't believe that happened.

Feldman: Who did you think won the fight, Bradley or Marquez? Well, Feldman picked Marquez.

Clements: This is the judge that forgot to count a knock down when the fighter is down and thereby scoring the first Marquez vs Manny fight a draw.

These are 3 American judges and at least 2 are Nevada resident judges, like Floyd. Just to say, for a fight of this magnitude, you would think that at least 2 judges would be from a neutral country .........

At the end of the day, its a judgment call but some judges may be swayed just enough due to who Floyd is and that he is the home town guy. As I said before, if they had put Peterson's face on Floyd, he would not get outright credited for some of those rounds. To think that a judge gave Peterson 0 of the first 6 rounds, you would think that Garcia was doing awesome but we both know, that he only won because he was the aggressor moving forward while Peterson was using movement, like Floyd.

You typed all that... and I didn't even read it.

[BennyST]

Hilarious and very indicative of your lack of intelligence Slim when you say that the incredibly flawed, but superficially showy Amir Khan can put on a boxing masterclass while Floyd never has.

Pretty standard for your level though I suppose. One day, you might get it. Unlikely but you might one day.

[ADP02]

You typed all that... and I didn't even read it.

Sorry to hear about your problem .... I believe in you though. I always say, if you can't succeed, try harder .....

[BennyST]

Sorry but my name is NOT Reloaded. I don't go hiding because my hero demanded CWs.

[/B]

So you give Pac as little, or as much credit for the Cotto fight as you give Floyd for the Canelo fight?

[GRIP STACCIN]

here allow me to end this garbage ass thread

poochie aint shyt, end of thread

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

In that case, tell me when exactly Canelo had an issue making 154. I'll wait.

One response was to the poster saying he was in the right because Canelo said something 2 years before the fight that he had with Floyd. He went on calling people idiots that didn't get on the same page as him.

So who was right? Should we take Canelo's word because he said something 2 years before on his weight?

Here is the link:

http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563

Canelo struggled to make 154, and so they had a special weight for him against Angulo for example and it was the fight after Floyd but I'm sure you knew that already.

You asked him, when Canelo struggled to make 154. He responded by telling you when. You responded to this post above and again, he actually had it there to read yet you responded back with saying "Angulo fight happened after the Floyd fight". Well, if you read it carefully, he said just that.

[b00g13man]

One response was to the poster saying he was in the right because Canelo said something 2 years before the fight that he had with Floyd. He went on calling people idiots that didn't get on the same page as him.

So who was right? Should we take Canelo's word because he said something 2 years before on his weight?

Here is the link:

http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563

You asked him, when Canelo struggled to make 154. He responded by telling you when. You responded to this post above and again, he actually had it there to read yet you responded back with saying "Angulo fight happened after the Floyd fight". Well, if you read it carefully, he said just that.

Read the origin of the conversation before you get involved next time...

he brought alvarez down to 152 knowning damn well that he had trouble making 154.

floyd would have won that fight at HW, but we can't deny the reality that alvarez was drained. he missed weight aginst angulo in his next fight. he was sitting on a chair at the weigh in, if any of you care to remember.

Explain to me how He brought Alvarez down to 152 knowing he had issues making 154.

I'll wait.

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

Read the origin of the conversation before you get involved next time...



Explain to me how He brought Alvarez down to 152 knowing he had issues making 154.

I'll wait.

That really does not matter. Where was the other poster wrong? You even agreed with other posters concerning ADP. On what did you agree on?


As for your question, there were discussions here about Canelo's struggles prior to the Floyd fight. He ballooned to around 172 against Trout and was having stamina issues. So that could have been the point or perhaps comments made prior to the fight being signed by Canelo and his team. There was a lot of talk coming from them that they can't do a CW without having issues making weight but only that poster can tell you what they meant by that statement.

As for the 152 CW and this may also answer your question, you should be listening to Floyd's own words. "CWs are used to drain your opponent". If you take someone's word then you need to take Floyd's.

[b00g13man]

That really does not matter. Where was the other poster wrong? You even agreed with other posters concerning ADP. On what did you agree on?


As for your question, there were discussions here about Canelo's struggles prior to the Floyd fight. He ballooned to around 172 against Trout and was having stamina issues. So that could have been the point or perhaps comments made prior to the fight being signed by Canelo and his team. There was a lot of talk coming from them that they can't do a CW without having issues making weight but only that poster can tell you what they meant by that statement.

As for the 152 CW and this may also answer your question, you should be listening to Floyd's own words. "CWs are used to drain your opponent". If you take someone's word then you need to take Floyd's.

None of the drivel you posted answers my question. He weighed in under 154 for Trout. Explain how that indicates he had issues making 154.

You don't know what the poster I quoted meant, so why the **** are you getting involved in the convo?

Oh, ADP02's posting history tells me that those posters are right.

[ThePunchingBag]

What is this thread about?

An opinion?