Roman Gonzalez: P4P #2 and Undefeated? That's TOTAL CRAP!

[El Campesino]

I would love to see the scorecards of those of you who think Gonzalez won "clearly".

Here's my scorecard:

1- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
2- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
3- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
4- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
5- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
6- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
7- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 10
8- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
9- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
10- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
11- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
12- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9

F- Estrada 117 - Gonzalez 112

In the center of the ring Estrada unloaded combinations with a beautiful variation of body and head shots, and along the ropes Estrada just made Gonzalez look silly, bobbing and weaving, avoiding almost every shot along the ropes. Beautiful performance by Estrada.

I thought round 7 was even and I gave round 11 to Gonzalez, but even in that round Estrada was landing the much cleaner punches.

Every time I watch this fight I get more disgusted by this blatant robbery. No wonder Gonzalez fights 28 loss donut vendors, . P4P doe, huh?

[joseph5620]

"There should be a protest"

Its a mythical list. You can have Audley Harrison on there if you want.

I personally wouldn't put Gonzales at number 2. People were getting a little too excited over what was a showcase fight.

[El Campesino]

Although I do agree with certain points the OP made(shocking, I know), Estrada was beat in their clash. Although he did give a strong account for himself in the initial half of the fight or so, he faded and Roman steadily increased his work rate while retaining accuracy and power.

Roman may be a tad bit overrated in my book as well, but to say he's simply being hyped up in order to make him some type of boogieman is not true. The man is tough, gritty and possess one of the best skill sets for his style in the entire sport, regardless of weight class.

Roman himself acknowledges his defensive flaws and has looked stellar in that department as of 2 fights ago. Perhaps it's due to the limited level of competition that has stood in front of him recently, but if you don't see a change from 3 fights ago when he was also facing a limited fighter in Fuentes, up until this past weekend, I wouldn't know what to tell you.

Come on Aztekkas, don't succumb to peer pressure. If you call that "fading" then Estrada could go 20 rounds easy, . I gave Estrada rounds 8, 9, 10, and 12. Even in round 11, which I gave Gonzalez, I thought Estrada landed the much cleaner punches.

Estrada may have faded in the middle rounds a bit, but I think he was just taking them off to come back strong late in the fight, which he did.

[Brickyardigan]

I did watch it, did you? If so then you cannot be right in the head if you think Estrada was robbed. It was a competitive and reasonably close fight that Roman Gonzalez clearly won. Estrada is a hell of a fighter and he pushed Gonzalez pretty close but no way in hell did he win that fight.

You are a blatant lie. You know damn well you did not watch the fight and are going off hearsay. Roman Gonzalez have a lot of **** riders right now, so people are trying to act like he is the next big thing and didn't even watch his fights.

THAT ESTRADA FIGHT WAS NOT CLOSE AT ALL. See the difference between people that believe Estrada won compared to the people that thunk Gonzalez won is simply based on whether it was close or not. Gonzalez supporters say the fight is close because they know Gonzalez did not look good at all in that fight and was looking timid in that fight. The real people that know boxing saw Estrada school Gonzalez for at least 9 rounds. I DEFINITELY HAVE ESTRADA 118-110 in that fight. You say it's close, I say absolutely not that was a high armed robbery.

Go watch some more boxing before you make an opinion on boxing, you don't know what you're watching.

OK, tell us why Rigondeaux should be higher than Gonzalez. Rigo's only notable win is Donaire, and that was 2 years ago. Gonzalez has wins over Estrada, Yaegashi, Rodriguez, Hirales, and Takayama.

Because he never lost or been out boxed like Gonzalez been.

But you have Rigondeaux at number 2?

Who has he beaten apart from Donaire?

Also he's been slapped around the ring and dropped by D-level fighters, for some reason people try to blank this out to fit their agenda. He has a lot of talent no doubt but also a lot of flaws, for some reason people act like he is the perfect fighter or is on the level of Mayweather or something. Mayweather has been fighting 19 years, never been dropped and slapped around the ring like Rigo has and has fought much much better opposition. Rigondeaux still has a lot to prove still before he gets anywhere near top 5 or 10 p4p in my opinion.

He's never been out boxed by a fighter that have less fights than him like Gonzalez.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Estrada was drained 4 pounds and Roman can't be superior. The fight was very competitive.

LOL exactly. These idiots don't understand they are **** riding another Pacquaio.

[Aztekkas]

Come on Aztekkas, don't succumb to peer pressure. If you call that "fading" then Estrada could go 20 rounds easy, . I gave Estrada rounds 8, 9, 10, and 12. Even in round 11, which I gave Gonzalez, I thought Estrada landed the much cleaner punches.

Estrada may have faded in the middle rounds a bit, but I think he was just taking them off to come back strong late in the fight, which he did.

Fck it, Estrada won

[El-blanco]

Fck it, Estrada won

Hahahahaha I legit lol'd

[meme_man]

I would love to see the scorecards of those of you who think Gonzalez won "clearly".

Here's my scorecard:

1- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
2- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
3- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
4- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
5- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
6- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
7- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 10
8- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
9- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
10- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
11- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
12- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9

F- Estrada 117 - Gonzalez 112

In the center of the ring Estrada unloaded combinations with a beautiful variation of body and head shots, and along the ropes Estrada just made Gonzalez look silly, bobbing and weaving, avoiding almost every shot along the ropes. Beautiful performance by Estrada.

I thought round 7 was even and I gave round 11 to Gonzalez, but even in that round Estrada was landing the much cleaner punches.

Every time I watch this fight I get more disgusted by this blatant robbery. No wonder Gonzalez fights 28 loss donut vendors, . P4P doe, huh?

Hell naw

[Brickyardigan]

I would love to see the scorecards of those of you who think Gonzalez won "clearly".

Here's my scorecard:

1- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
2- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
3- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
4- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
5- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
6- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
7- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 10
8- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
9- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
10- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9
11- Estrada 9 - Gonzalez 10
12- Estrada 10 - Gonzalez 9

F- Estrada 117 - Gonzalez 112

In the center of the ring Estrada unloaded combinations with a beautiful variation of body and head shots, and along the ropes Estrada just made Gonzalez look silly, bobbing and weaving, avoiding almost every shot along the ropes. Beautiful performance by Estrada.

I thought round 7 was even and I gave round 11 to Gonzalez, but even in that round Estrada was landing the much cleaner punches.

Every time I watch this fight I get more disgusted by this blatant robbery. No wonder Gonzalez fights 28 loss donut vendors, . P4P doe, huh?

EXACTLY!

I gave Estrada round 11 though. Gonzalez only got round 5 clearly, the rest Estrada was definitely in. It was beautiful work by Estrada, it's amazing how people blatantly ignore what he was doing to Gonzalez and how he neutralized him.

This definitely reminds me of how popular opinion kept Juan Manuel Marquez down. People do not appreciate great technical skill when it's on display.

[Brickyardigan]

It's amazing how after May 2nd, there is still so many ignorant to the craft of true boxing skill. Estrada should be talked about much more than Gonzalez... I like Gonzalez but I fell in love with Estrada's ability to make the guy timid and took his offense away. He hurt Gonzalez much more than Gonzalez hurt him and he continually threw combinations that landed beautifully.

It was a masterpiece. He schooled Gonzalez no question.

[El-blanco]

It's amazing how after May 2nd, there is still so many ignorant to the craft of true boxing skill. Estrada should be talked about much more than Gonzalez... I like Gonzalez but I fell in love with Estrada's ability to make the guy timid and took his offense away. He hurt Gonzalez much more than Gonzalez hurt him and he continually threw combinations that landed beautifully.

It was a masterpiece. He schooled Gonzalez no question.

Shut the phuck up and get over yourself phaggot. You just now saw roman fight, and don't like the praise hes getting, so the contrarian b1tch in you goes back and watches a fight of his with someone else you've never even heard of before. You then proceed to call robbery in a fight roman clearly won and claim everyone else is an idiot. FOH.