Roman Gonzalez: P4P #2 and Undefeated? That's TOTAL CRAP!

[Humean]

That fact that 16 people voted that Roman is more skilled than Guillermo on the poll, shows that boxing knowledge on Boxingscene.com is almost non-existent.

This is absolutely atrocious and blasphemous.

Estrada was definitely robbed. Watch the fight, stop being a follower.

I did watch it, did you? If so then you cannot be right in the head if you think Estrada was robbed. It was a competitive and reasonably close fight that Roman Gonzalez clearly won. Estrada is a hell of a fighter and he pushed Gonzalez pretty close but no way in hell did he win that fight.

[VG_Addict]

OK, tell us why Rigondeaux should be higher than Gonzalez. Rigo's only notable win is Donaire, and that was 2 years ago. Gonzalez has wins over Estrada, Yaegashi, Rodriguez, Hirales, and Takayama.

[El-blanco]

Let me just say, I appreciate Roman Gonzalez tenacity and his fighting style. He reminds me of the fighters of the older generations where they showed great skill but also employed the attitude to constantly find a way to end their opponent in dramatic fashion. His recent fight on the undercard of Gennady Golovkin against Edgar Sosa was a great display of skill, power and action against a former champion. To show the ability to get him out of there in 2 rounds was spectacular and noteworthy.

However, he is not what the powers that be is trying to tell the public and boxing ignorant. His style is casual friendly but the guy is being hyped up more than he deserve to be at this point. Basically putting this guy at P4P #2 is absolutely wrong and premature. People lets not forget what happened last time. You guys are creating another #48(Pacquiao) situation where American viewers are told this guy is the most exciting fighter to watch and also has top notch skill much above their competition. He's not meant to be there just yet.. not just yet.

There should be protest about this guy's place on the P4P list, as he has legitimately been outboxed , outskilled and beaten before soundly. We do not need another premature hyped fighter where he is not what the narrative said about him matches up with his overall career. He is not an undefeated fighter in this sport, he has been gifted. The Mexican Juan Francisco Estrada should be P4P #2 if we all feel Roman Gonzalez should have that position. He legitimately beaten and outclassed Gonzalez in their showdown.

Yes, just like the narrative between #48 and the Great Professor Juan Manuel Marquez, one fighter has rightfully won but been thrown into the abyss of shadows after being robbed to promote the fighter the powers that be wants to bring to American audience forefront and collect their dollars. Talk of a rematch forgotten and years go by. Juan Francisco Estrado continues to outbox and stop his opponents in beautiful technical fashion but gets no coverage or promotion to build his fanbase. Roman Gonzalez however gets to take on less opponents for more exposure and fed to the global community for bigger pay checks, hoping to drown out any talk of a rematch.

He's not undefeated, and definitely not P4P #2. Watch the fight for yourself and you will see how beautiful Juan Estrado neutralize and outboxed Gonzalez.


One last point. A more secure and correct P4P list that has Gonzalez on it should look like this.

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Guillermo Rigondeaux
3) Wladimir Klitschko
4) Terrence Crawford
5) Juan Estrada Francisco
6) Timothy Bradley
7) Juan Manuel Marquez
8) Roman Gonzalez
9) Sergey Kovalev
10) Carl Froch
...
...
...
48) Manny Pacquiao

Lets be clear folks, and not make the same mistake so soon.

Thanks for confirming you don't know wtf you're talking about, yet again.

[VG_Addict]

Let's use your own "He's been outboxed before" argument against you.

You have Crawford 4th on your P4P list. Crawford got outboxed for 4 rounds by the much smaller Gamboa, and a big part of his win was simply due to size.

[El-blanco]

Let's use your own "He's been outboxed before" argument against you.

You have Crawford 4th on your P4P list. Crawford got outboxed for 4 rounds by the much smaller Gamboa, and a big part of his win was simply due to size.

I'd say for five rounds he was getting embarrassed. And yes size is the on,y reason he won. Gamboa had to keep lunging in, way out of proper weight class.

[deathofaclown]

But you have Rigondeaux at number 2?

Who has he beaten apart from Donaire?

Also he's been slapped around the ring and dropped by D-level fighters, for some reason people try to blank this out to fit their agenda. He has a lot of talent no doubt but also a lot of flaws, for some reason people act like he is the perfect fighter or is on the level of Mayweather or something. Mayweather has been fighting 19 years, never been dropped and slapped around the ring like Rigo has and has fought much much better opposition. Rigondeaux still has a lot to prove still before he gets anywhere near top 5 or 10 p4p in my opinion.

[Mexican_Puppet]

He beat Estrada's ass and would do so much more in a rematch. The only reason a rematch is talked of is because he is the only fighter in recent times to be somewhat competitive in parts.

And absolutely he is more skilled than Estrada both offensively and defensively and its not particularly close.

I won't knock anyone for having him as p4p #2 if you're taking not just his resume but his skillset also into consideration.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Estrada was drained 4 pounds and Roman can't be superior. The fight was very competitive.

[El-blanco]

But you have Rigondeaux at number 2?

Who has he beaten apart from Donaire?

Also he's been slapped around the ring and dropped by D-level fighters, for some reason people try to blank this out to fit their agenda. He has a lot of talent no doubt but also a lot of flaws, for some reason people act like he is the perfect fighter or is on the level of Mayweather or something. Mayweather has been fighting 19 years, never been dropped and slapped around the ring like Rigo has and has fought much much better opposition. Rigondeaux still has a lot to prove still before he gets anywhere near top 5 or 10 p4p in my opinion.

Thank you.

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[Picazo]

Gonzalez is definitely in the top 5 p4p and continues to improve I feel hw deserves all the accolades coming his way and dont expext him to be knocked off any time soon.

[bojangles1987]

I can't get over this guy not only arguing that Estrada beat Gonzalez, which is ridiculous enough alone, but that Estrada won 10 rounds.