Comments Thread For: Golovkin Drops Monroe Three Times For TKO in Six

[IronDanHamza]

You're being silly and using this statement combined with Santa Cruz average performance in his last fight to try and make a point, but it's not working.

Read the stats and enjoy.

What are you talking about?

You used compubox to argue Golovkin has a good defense (which is ****** to begin with) and according to the very same stats you provided he has a defense as good as Leo Santa Cruz, who's defense is clearly abysmal.

You can see the stats right? Both Golovkin and Santa Cruz are at 22%.

So basically your argument is as strong as Willie Munroes punch.

[NEELZ]

What are you talking about?

You used compubox to argue Golovkin has a good defense (which is ****** to begin with) and according to the very same stats you provided he has a defense as good as Leo Santa Cruz, who's defense is clearly abysmal.

You can see the stats right? Both Golovkin and Santa Cruz are at 22%.

So basically your argument is as strong as Willie Munroes punch.

Willie Monroe's punch is 20 x stronger than Floyd's punch. He's TBE

[T18Z]

What are you talking about?

You used compubox to argue Golovkin has a good defense (which is ****** to begin with) and according to the very same stats you provided he has a defense as good as Leo Santa Cruz, who's defense is clearly abysmal.

You can see the stats right? Both Golovkin and Santa Cruz are at 22%.

So basically your argument is as strong as Willie Munroes punch.

No, I use my eyes to realize Golovkin makes use of good defense when it's needed, not against fighters who have ridiculously little knockout power. I didn't soley base anything off compubox, I used it as a basis to support my point.

I bet you're one of those posters who claimed Golovkin had been exposed defensively when Stevens managed to hit him with a 3-4 power shots over the course of a 10 round fight, like it's an incredible number.

Go watch his other fights and notice what is obvious to anyone but Mayweather and Cotto fan, for obvious reasons, that he has a good defense, especially for his style.

Compubox isn't accurate, no, but it does give an indication of trends which are obviously true to the eye, such as Chavez getting hit a lot more than other fighters, Rigo having the best defense of everyone, as well as Lara, Klitscko and Mayweather, and Golovkin having the best jab in boxing.

You can try and tell me none of the above is true all you like, or you can agree that in some areas Compubox presents some form of information that points correctly towards certain fighters excelling in certain areas, no matter the faults of the system.

[Someone88]

YES! Monroe did well, excellent win for Golovkin!

[IronDanHamza]

Willie Monroe's punch is 20 x stronger than Floyd's punch. He's TBE

And your point is?

[IronDanHamza]

No, I use my eyes to realize Golovkin makes use of good defense when it's needed, not against fighters who have ridiculously little knockout power.

I bet you're one of those posters who exclaimed Golovkin had been exposed when Stevens managed to hit him with a 3-4 power shots over the course of a 10 round fight, like it's an incredible number.

Go watch his other fights and notice what is obvious to anyone but Mayweather and Cotto fan, for obvious reasons.

Well no, clearly you didn't.

You provided compubox stats to support your argument when those same stats say his defense is the same level as Leo Santa Cruz.

Do you think Leo Santa Cruz has a good defense? Because according to those stats he does.

[Weebler I]

GGG eats punches when he feels he can, to make the "drama show" We have see he is capable of being slick.

He is even know conclusively known to carry opponents and allow them moments of competitiveness for us the fans,

I don't think it's for the show any more than I think Mayweather does it for the show when he claims it.

I just think after Golovkin drops a fighter he feels more comfortable taking their punches. He said he had Curtis Stevens beaten from round 2 and Murray beaten from round 4. He said the power goes off their punches after they get hurt, and of course in Monroe's case he didn't have much power in first place.

[IMDAZED]

No, I use my eyes to realize Golovkin makes use of good defense when it's needed, not against fighters who have ridiculously little knockout power. I didn't soley base anything off compubox, I used it as a basis to support my point.

I bet you're one of those posters who exclaimed Golovkin had been exposed when Stevens managed to hit him with a 3-4 power shots over the course of a 10 round fight, like it's an incredible number.

Go watch his other fights and notice what is obvious to anyone but Mayweather and Cotto fan, for obvious reasons.

Compubox isn't accurate, no, but it does give an indication of trends which are obviously true to the eye, such as Chavez getting hit a lot more than other fighters, Rigo having the best defense of everyone, as well as Lara, Klitscko and Mayweather, and Golovkin having the best jab in boxing.

You can try and tell me none of the above is true all you like, or you can agree that in some areas compubox presents some form of proof that certain fighters excel in certain areas, no matter the faults of the system.

I'm not sure I agree with this "GGG has good defense when he needs it" logic. He gets tagged clean a lot. That's if you're willing to throw your hands against him.

GGG really is an excellent fighter and it's going to take someone bigger than him to defeat him. Or maybe if Canelo can settle into 160 comfortably. But as it stands right now, nobody is beating him at this weight. He can choose to remain there but I sincerely hope he steps up the opposition because these fights are getting redundant. And if that opposition won't step up to face him then he needs to consider stepping up another division.

[T18Z]

Well no, clearly you didn't.

You provided compubox stats to support your argument when those same stats say his defense is the same level as Leo Santa Cruz.

Do you think Leo Santa Cruz has a good defense? Because according to those stats he does.

I don't watch Santa Cruz much, never been a big fan of him nor his recent streak of fighting bums, so I can't comment on it with confidence. I do however pay more attention to the other fighters that are below and above him in the ratings (Golovkin), and I can say he is more defensively responsible (when he wants to be) than those below him.

Am I saying he's Mayweather? No. I'm just saying his defense, especially for his style, is good. Not amazing, but good.

[T18Z]

I'm not sure I agree with this "GGG has good defense when he needs it" logic. He gets tagged clean a lot. That's if you're willing to throw your hands against him.

GGG really is an excellent fighter and it's going to take someone bigger than him to defeat him. Or maybe if Canelo can settle into 160 comfortably. But as it stands right now, nobody is beating him at this weight. He can choose to remain there but I sincerely hope he steps up the opposition because these fights are getting redundant. And if that opposition won't step up to face him then he needs to consider stepping up another division.

Well, besides his fight with Ouma, can you name any of his other fights where he's been tagged and hit repeatedly against a puncher or someone who carries dangerous power?

The only fighters of memory who have actually done so are light fisted fighters (Murray, Willie) and Ouma (which he has a reasoning for partially), do you believe that's a coincidence?