Lampley's Anti-Gatti List

[El-blanco]

Don't think so. Fighters who can use their legs against bigger fighters do. It could have been the added weight. But that's a matter of opinion. Like I said, I didn't invent this today. Was posting the same thing back then too. Back then actually...I was considered a Floyd hater

Anyway, for me, Floyd peaked at 140. At 130 he was an athletic marvel and by 140 he combined that athleticism with the proper size. At 147 he wasn't as big and was slower.

He used his legs at welterweight, sometimes to a chorus of boos. He's able to move but he also knows he can slip punches in the pocket and return clean scoring punches. Moving all fight and tapping wouldn't result in him winning, he knows that.

[The Big Dunn]

He used his legs at welterweight, sometimes to a chorus of boos. He's able to move but he also knows he can slip punches in the pocket and return clean scoring punches. Moving all fight and tapping wouldn't result in him winning, he knows that.

But why does he know this is the question? he knows it because he knows guys in this era have not learned how to effectively deal with movement and cut off the ring.

Posters always say that Floyd would struggle with ww's in other eras because they could do it all. Duran, Leonard Hearns, ect. would have an answer for what Floyd does. that todays ww's don't isn't a negative on Floyd, its a negative on them and their trainers.

There would be no chorus of boos because those guys wouldn't have their punch volume reduced so much that the fight would suck.

At what point do we ask those who have holes to fill those holes?

[R_Walken]

Their model is kinda jacked up. But I think it's PBC that's really thrown a wrench in their plans.

Yeah for sure , PBC has left HBO instead of focusing on being #1 , now their focusing their attention on having their marquee fighters matched up against competition in which they'll lay likely lay a beat down and make it crowd friendly fight .

Just off the top of my head this year HBO headliners have been or will be

Rios / Alvarado
GGG / Murray
Klitchko / Jennings
Canelo / Kirkland
Kovalev / ,Pascal
GGG / Monroe
Bradley / Vargas
Ruslan / Matthysse

That list isn't focusing on Best vs best it's seems like their hoping for beatdowns and Wars more often than not. Now compare it to the PBC headliners and at least for me it's not even close as far as being competitive fights

Thurman / Guerrero
Garcia / Peterson
Lee / Quillen
Adonis / Bika
Lopez / Berto
Dirrell / Jack
Dirrell / Degeale
Porter / Broner
Burns / Figueroa
Khan / Algieri

[El-blanco]

But why does he know this is the question? he knows it because he knows guys in this era have not learned how to effectively deal with movement and cut off the ring.

Posters always say that Floyd would struggle with ww's in other eras because they could do it all. Duran, Leonard Hearns, ect. would have an answer for what Floyd does. that todays ww's don't isn't a negative on Floyd, its a negative on them and their trainers.

There would be no chorus of boos because those guys wouldn't have their punch volume reduced so much that the fight would suck.

At what point do we ask those who have holes to fill those holes?

It's a disengaging style that is effective. I'm not blaming him for it but I'm also not going to believe that this welterweight version of him, save the last three fights, is past prime. The fact that he's had two competitive fights in the last decade is impressive but to suggest he's not a negative fighter is nuts to me.

[IMDAZED]

He used his legs at welterweight, sometimes to a chorus of boos. He's able to move but he also knows he can slip punches in the pocket and return clean scoring punches. Moving all fight and tapping wouldn't result in him winning, he knows that.

After the Baldomir fight, I'm not sure I agree. He mixed in movement with clinching and spoiling aggression but his pegs were nowhere near what they once were.

[The Big Dunn]

It's a disengaging style that is effective. I'm not blaming him for it but I'm also not going to believe that this welterweight version of him, save the last three fights, is past prime. The fact that he's had two competitive fights in the last decade is impressive but to suggest he's not a negative fighter is nuts to me.

If Floyd is trailing, he fights like hell to get the lead. That isn't a negative fighter IMO.

Since his move to ww when Floyd has a big lead in a fight, he sits on the lead. If that to you and New England is negative, so be it.

IMO the guy trailing has got to do more, same as I would expect Floyd to do when he is behind in a fight.

[Weebler I]

Yeah for sure , PBC has left HBO instead of focusing on being #1 , now their focusing their attention on having their marquee fighters matched up against competition in which they'll lay likely lay a beat down and make it crowd friendly fight .

Just off the top of my head this year HBO headliners have been or will be

Rios / Alvarado
GGG / Murray
Klitchko / Jennings
Canelo / Kirkland
Kovalev / ,Pascal
GGG / Monroe
Bradley / Vargas
Ruslan / Matthysse.

That list isn't focusing on Best vs best it's seems like their hoping for beatdowns and Wars more often than not. Now compare it to the PBC headliners and at least for me it's not even close as far as being competitive fights

Thurman / Guerrero
Garcia / Peterson
Lee / Quillen
Adonis / Bika
Lopez / Berto
Dirrell / Jack
Dirrell / Degeale
Porter / Broner
Burns / Figueroa
Khan / Algieri

but this list is focusing on the best versus the best?

I'm not sure any of those PBC fights can be characterised as the best versus the best.

GGG-Murray (160), Kovalev-Pascal (175) and Matthysse-Provodnikov (140) might well be.

[The Big Dunn]

but this list is focusing on the best versus the best?

I'm not sure any of those PBC fights can be characterised as the best versus the best.

GGG-Murray (160), Kovalev-Pascal (175) and Matthysse-Provodnikov (140) might well be.

No, they are not in any way, shape or form.

[IMDAZED]

If Floyd is trailing, he fights like hell to get the lead. That isn't a negative fighter IMO.

Since his move to ww when Floyd has a big lead in a fight, he sits on the lead. If that to you and New England is negative, so be it.

IMO the guy trailing has got to do more, same as I would expect Floyd to do when he is behind in a fight.

I find it curious that they ignore how he fought from 130-140. As if it doesn't matter.

Floyd is 38. He was 33 when he fought Mosley. 30 when he fought Oscar. In these divisions, you start losing it at that point. So to point to these fights as a barometer really says a lot.

[b00g13man]

I find it curious that they ignore how he fought from 130-140. As if it doesn't matter.

Floyd is 38. He was 33 when he fought Mosley. 30 when he fought Oscar. In these divisions, you start losing it at that point. So to point to these fights as a barometer really says a lot.

This IS prime Floyd. Didn't you get the memo?