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    #131
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Why would you only look at his career from that point? He's fought 14 times since moving up from 140. He made 8 defenses of his 130 title alone.

    What I said was that he wasn't negative in his prime which, to me, was from 130-140. And he certainly wasn't. When you're talking about Mayweather simply potshotting, you're talking about a past prime version.



    oh my goodness.

    i'm done, guys. i'm done.

    everything i've ever known is a lie.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #132
      Originally posted by El-blanco
      So Floyd was past prime versus oscar? Hahaha. This is ridiculous. He moved up in weight and realized his strategy needed to change. That doesn't make him past prime.
      Actually, I thought he was. Used to post about it on here with several other astute posters. Once I saw him being more flat-footed (which began with the Oscar fight), I knew he was beginning to pace his legs.

      But again, I said in his prime he didn't fight negative. I enjoyed his style from 130-140. Did he have the power of a Hearns or Leonard? Absolutely not. Was he negative? Childish argument.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #133
        Originally posted by deanrw
        The heavyweight division is in disarray. The fans know it. Fans want action and the heavyweight division currently does not provide a lot of it. There are some decent ones that take place, and even though it is in a state of lull, the fans would jump back in a heartbeat if the action returned.
        Not just action, but action with skill. HWT is dead because even though you have bigger guys that hit harder, they do not know how to actually land a punch, fight inside, or do anything necessary to make a great fight.

        Let's go back to May 2nd. Manny decided to try and box to a win, making the fight suck since he usually throws a high volume of punches.

        Once Manny decided to box, IYO was it then on Floyd to turn into a high volume puncher or fight carelessly so Manny could counter him to make the fight exciting?

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        • TexasGunslinger
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          #134
          I thought it was in poor taste.

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          • R_Walken
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            #135
            What a suprise that 4 of the 5 aren't on HBO and 3 of those are with Haymon

            Personally not really feeling the direction HBO is heading with a emphasis on beat downs and not really focusing on the best fighting the best. But from the conversation on this board it seems I'm in the minority

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            • IMDAZED
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              #136
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              What a suprise that 4 of the 5 aren't on HBO and 3 of those are with Haymon

              Personally not really feeling the direction HBO is heading with a emphasis on beat downs and not really focusing on the best fighting the best. But from the conversation on this board it seems I'm in the minority
              Their model is kinda jacked up. But I think it's PBC that's really thrown a wrench in their plans.

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              • El-blanco
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                #137
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Actually, I thought he was. Used to post about it on here with several other astute posters. Once I saw him being more flat-footed (which began with the Oscar fight), I knew he was beginning to pace his legs.

                But again, I said in his prime he didn't fight negative. I enjoyed his style from 130-140. Did he have the power of a Hearns or Leonard? Absolutely not. Was he negative? Childish argument.
                You can't be serious. His style changed at 47 because he had to adapt and knew that was his only way to win. Again, style change doesn't equal being past time.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #138
                  WOW......smh

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by El-blanco
                    You can't be serious. His style changed at 47 because he had to adapt and knew that was his only way to win. Again, style change doesn't equal being past time.
                    Don't think so. Fighters who can use their legs against bigger fighters do. It could have been the added weight. But that's a matter of opinion. Like I said, I didn't invent this today. Was posting the same thing back then too. Back then actually...I was considered a Floyd hater

                    Anyway, for me, Floyd peaked at 140. At 130 he was an athletic marvel and by 140 he combined that athleticism with the proper size. At 147 he wasn't as big and was slower.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by PlasterWraps
                      Maybe to you he wasn't 2-putting, but to a lot of people he was. It could have been because he got buzzed in the 4th and 6th, but it's boxing, you're bound to get hit at some point.

                      So the guy trailing has to get worse to make it an entertaining fight. It's not up to Floyd, at all, to entertain. Got you.
                      Before you come back with the technician excuse, Morales and Barrera were pretty solid technicians too, and they went out to fight. Lomachenko is solid, he goes out and attacks too. Don't act as if being a technician of boxing renders the offensive aspect of boxing obsolete. Especially not for someone of Mayweather's caliber.
                      I didn't say he wasn't 2 putting-I said because he did doesn't mean he wasn't trying to make the first putt. Sometimes a 2 putt is smart strategy but most times it's because of a miss.

                      Why are you paraphrasing instead of addressing exactly what I said? The guy who is trailing needs to find a way to win. That makes the fight entertaining. No different from a football game where the team ahead in the 4th runs while the team trailing passes, which is almost always more exciting?

                      I am not acting like anything, you just keep avoiding the fact that once fighter A gets a lead its on the opponent trailing to try and find a way to win. if he doesn't, the fight will suck. Same goes FOR FLOYD!!

                      When Floyd is trailing-zab, Castillo 1, Maidana 1-he stepped up the pace and found a way to win.

                      You say its n ot about Floyd losing for you, but each time you post you use "Exciting" when you are really asking for Floyd to take risks an abandon a style that got him the lead in the fight up to that point.

                      WHat fighter does that?

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