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  • ADP02
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    #151
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Mayweather hasn't made a career out of it. The only fights he held too much were Maidana 2 and Hatton IMO. The Pacquiao fight had no more holding than the average fight, only people that haven't watched much boxing would think any different.
    Lovely tale from a Floyd fan.






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    • The Gambler1981
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      #152
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Lovely tale from a Floyd fan.






      The second one with Mosley isn't holding, but is an example of something you can do to combat holding, put your forearm in guys face they wouldn't be able to clinch all the way. See how Mosley is trying to wrap up arms spread, but can't because his face is getting crunched.

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        #153
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        The second one with Mosley isn't holding, but is an example of something you can do to combat holding, put your forearm in guys face they wouldn't be able to clinch all the way. See how Mosley is trying to wrap up arms spread, but can't because his face is getting crunched.
        Floyd fouls in his fights intentionally. Be it hugging, elbow to the face, forearm, head lock, ......

        What Floyd did to Mosley, if it was Maidana, he would have been either given hard warnings or points deducted right away. Happened in their 2nd fight. Floyd elbowed. No points deducted. Maidana elbows, and gets a point deducted right away. No hard warnings ...... but nice try with that explanation.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #154
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Floyd fouls in his fights intentionally. Be it hugging, elbow to the face, forearm, head lock, ......

          What Floyd did to Mosley, if it was Maidana, he would have been either given hard warnings or points deducted right away. Happened in their 2nd fight. Floyd elbowed. No points deducted. Maidana elbows, and gets a point deducted right away. No hard warnings ...... but nice try with that explanation.
          Not the first Maidana fight it wouldn't~ Maidana was dirty as ****, and the second he got a point deducted for pushing Floyd down but it was pretty blatant. You throw someone down you usually get points taken straight away. Might have been a bit soft but is certainly wasn't an elbow that got the point taken away.

          Not the same thing at all, Floyd is clever with his moves and not blatant. This thread is specifically about clinching and guys actually doing something about it without just looking like a lost puppy to the ref. That second pic is a perfect example of an expert type move in that regard even if also a foul.

          Let me get out my violin that only plays sad songs for you though because some sad violin music would go perfect with your posts about Mayweather.

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          • ElMeroChingon
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            #155
            I't dumb hear "fans" support excessive clinching. It has absolutely no benefit to the viewer.

            At the end of the day, we always get a hugfest, barely any punches get thrown or slipped. We get bad fights.

            It doesn't make sense, excessive clinching does nothing for the fans, it ruins fights.

            You pay money to see some of these fights live or at home, and when a fighter decides to clinch the whole fight, you don't get your money's worth. Just a boring fight.

            These clinchers are taking your money, laughing at your A&& all the way to the bank.

            And we have guys here STILL riding their d!K eventhough we didn't see anything do to a hugfest? lmao

            Pathetic.

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              #156
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              Not the first Maidana fight it wouldn't~ Maidana was dirty as ****, and the second he got a point deducted for pushing Floyd down but it was pretty blatant. You throw someone down you usually get points taken straight away. Might have been a bit soft but is certainly wasn't an elbow that got the point taken away.

              Not the same thing at all, Floyd is clever with his moves and not blatant. This thread is specifically about clinching and guys actually doing something about it without just looking like a lost puppy to the ref. That second pic is a perfect example of an expert type move in that regard even if also a foul.

              Let me get out my violin that only plays sad songs for you though because some sad violin music would go perfect with your posts about Mayweather.
              Started out as an elbow ..... come to think of it, you are right. Wow! Like you said, lame! Floyd never buckles so easily but did from that? So its even worse.

              Sorry but you Floyd fans call it dirty when someone does something to Floyd but have the nerve to protect Floyd when he does something dirty himself.


              As for your comment about crying like a lost puppy to the ref, that was Floyd but should have been Maidana with all those blantant fouls from Floyd! How can one guy get points deducted and the other does not. Well, Floyd is the Vegas home town guy ..... they protect him in Vegas.

              There were instances where Floyd fouled and Bayless talked to Maidana. Just insane!






              Bayless admitted that he was ready to pull the trigger on Maidana even before the fight started.

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                #157
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Started out as an elbow ..... come to think of it, you are right. Wow! Like you said, lame! Floyd never buckles so easily but did from that? So its even worse.

                Sorry but you Floyd fans call it dirty when someone does something to Floyd but have the nerve to protect Floyd when he does something dirty himself.


                As for your comment about crying like a lost puppy to the ref, that was Floyd but should have been Maidana with all those blantant fouls from Floyd! How can one guy get points deducted and the other does not. Well, Floyd is the Vegas home town guy ..... they protect him in Vegas.

                There were instances where Floyd fouled and Bayless talked to Maidana. Just insane!






                Bayless admitted that he was ready to pull the trigger on Maidana even before the fight started.
                Why everything gotta b bout Floyd doe?

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                  #158
                  Floyd wishes he had two assholes so he can enjoy an extra cock.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by spytactics
                    Floyd wishes he had two assholes so he can enjoy an extra cock.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Richie Ric
                      Why everything gotta b bout Floyd doe?
                      I thought it was a pretty good example for how to deal with holding by a fighter, more guys should pull that move with guys gripping them up.

                      I haven't got why more guys don't do that move it is damn effective.

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