Everyone complains about hugging and holding in the ring...

[extracurRICular]

But why don't the opponents...(those being hugged and held) do something about it?? what ever happened to not letting yourself be hugged and held?

how about some pushing? or some hitting in the back of the head or some kidney punches? I mean if the other person is gonna implement illegal tactics...why not fight fire with fire?? and let the other fighter pay the price for his tactics or he will stop doing it.....or better yet the ref would maybe start doing his job........

anyone???

I mean

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[hectari]

So basically you want the person being repeatedly hugged to break the rules as well and hit them in the back of the head, push them or kidney shots?

So you are making the victim the bad person? The ref is supposed to abide by the rules and deduct points for excessive clinching, a fighter who is being a good sportsman and abiding by the rules shouldn't have to resort to dirty retaliation tactics.

[DeadLikeMe]

I always just started ****ing their kidney with my free hand. It usually pisses off both opponent and officals alike though.

[Larry the boss]

Because they are just using it as an excuse,it fits their agenda

[Larry the boss]

I always just started ****ing their kidney with my free hand. It usually pisses off both opponent and officals alike though.

Yep funny thing is most of the time they have a free hand and dont do ****

[Deevel916]

Excessive holding/clinching is illegal and the problem is its not being enforced by refs. Therefore certain fighters are doing it more and more because they know there's no repercussion to it. Yet the minute the fighter being held fouls back there's a stern warning and/or point deduction.

[The Gambler1981]

I always just started ****ing their kidney with my free hand. It usually pisses off both opponent and officals alike though.

You need to position properly for stuff like that, if the guy is all over you make sure you use the blindspots created by the clinch. It is difficult to be paying attention to the refs position like that, while a guy is fighting you but there are certainly ways to get in fouls without it getting noticed.

[The Big Dunn]

Its because a lot of fighters do not have any skill fighting on the inside. They get marketed as great fighters because of KO's and power when in reality they are not very good in a number of areas.

[ReIoaded]

This is the reason why the next generation of "pure" boxers inspired by Mayweather should seriously consider a career in MMA instead of boxing.

MMA allows and encourages the use of excessive hugging and embracing your opponent as part of the overall means to achieve victory.

[The Gambler1981]

The thread is right though, if a guy is fighting dirty beating him in a totally clean fashion is a damn hard trick. You have to at least have the ability to get down and dirty in boxing. Also it is not like this is something new, in boxing if an opponent is willing to take the fight to places you don't want to go you have major issues, if the guy is anywhere close to as talented.