Mayweather will walk away with approx. $275m

[Scipio2009]

didn't arum say Manny was donating half to charity? I thought there was a thread about this.

With Pacquiao in the tax hole that he still is, and knowing that the statement was coming from Bob Arum, I assumed he was just full of ****, so I ignored the statement.

Beyond that, there's no 'half' to donate to charity; Arum is gonna take a third, Koncz will take his 15%, Roach gets his trainer's fee (generally 10%, but wouldn't be shocked if they just negotiated a flat fee before the fight), and Pacquiao would still owe ~42% in current tax obligations in the PI (income tax + VAT, regardless of whom the actual tax is payed to).

Before paying off any of the fight advances, or even settling the old tax bill, 85%-90% of his purse is already committed to other parties.

[The Big Dunn]

If everyone fought like floyd there would be no boxing fans. We all be watching MMA

There was a time when most fought like Floyd did. the difference is they never quit punching like Manny or Canelo. The greatest fights ever were not mindless brawlers against each other but great fighters who fought inside, boxed moved, cut off the ring.

The greats were great because they had great opponents.

You just don't get it-the best athletes combine skill and athleticism. Athleticism alone can only take you so far at the pro level.

Kevin Durant said something I liked-Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Manny just never developed the skills to defeat someone with the talent and skill Floyd possesses. Floyd however, worked hard enough that he developed the skills to deal with fighters that are faster, left handed, taller, heavier, more athletic.

Sadly, fans like you appreciate less talented men who don't work as hard as Floyd because they are easier for you to connect with.

[The Gambler1981]

What is sicker is that Floyd didn't want Manny to get any PPV money but at least now we know and agree that it was all an excuse.

What is sicker is that Manny and To Rank couldn't find the time to actually try and work out an agreement with that as a starting point which was inline with the biggest fight at that point.

I am sure they could have worked out a deal at that point at 60/40, heck Manny might have got 45% at that time. So if Manny could have got 45% (or anything above 40%) instead of 40% if he played ball at that point did he really make the correct play (assuming the amount made stays equal)?

That deal was never going to be what was talked about on the phone between them, that was an opening gambit (that didn't work out).

[The Big Dunn]

That is a good point ....

Look at Manny's last three opponents after he got Ko'ed by JMM, and ask yourself if those opponents elevated or prepared Manny's game enough to face Floyd.

- Bradley is a very good fighter, but is undisciplined.
- Rios is a human punching bag and any A-level fighter would look great against him.
- Algeri was as green as he could be, having only two 12 rounders prior to facing Manny.

Yes. So many of Manny's fans felt fighting Tim and Algieiri were good prep for Floyd. If you corrected them and said otherwise then immediately it was *****, floydiot, hater, racist, etc, etc.

They just don't get it. They think knocking down algieiri 6 times means he can knock any boxer down 6 times.

[Slick_Rick]

Nice day for the taxman

[ADP02]

What is sicker is that Manny and To Rank couldn't find the time to actually try and work out an agreement with that as a starting point which was inline with the biggest fight at that point.

I am sure they could have worked out a deal at that point at 60/40, heck Manny might have got 45% at that time. So if Manny could have got 45% (or anything above 40%) instead of 40% if he played ball at that point did he really make the correct play (assuming the amount made stays equal)?

That deal was never going to be what was talked about on the phone between them, that was an opening gambit (that didn't work out).

Floyd had said that "I can't afford to give him any"

The amount was too low for it to be a starting point. Especially when everyone was thinking 50/50 back then. If you consider it a starting point then you and Floyd should have considered $45 mill for Floyd a counter offer. There was also talk about 45/45 and 10 for the winner. None of that from Floyd's side though ...... Then Floyd could have come back with something else more reasonable but he didn't.

[arraamis]

If pacman does that to runner Algieri he will do it to coward Mayweather!

Yeah That was the general consensus after the Algeri fight.

[BoxingLegend89']

There was a time when most fought like Floyd did. the difference is they never quit punching like Manny or Canelo. The greatest fights ever were not mindless brawlers against each other but great fighters who fought inside, boxed moved, cut off the ring.

The greats were great because they had great opponents.

You just don't get it-the best athletes combine skill and athleticism. Athleticism alone can only take you so far at the pro level.

Kevin Durant said something I liked-Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Manny just never developed the skills to defeat someone with the talent and skill Floyd possesses. Floyd however, worked hard enough that he developed the skills to deal with fighters that are faster, left handed, taller, heavier, more athletic.

Sadly, fans like you appreciate less talented men who don't work as hard as Floyd because they are easier for you to connect with.

Thats actually a good post, id green k you if i could. But, dont you think pacquiao work as hard as floyd? maybe not now but earlier in his career (prior to marqeuz knockout)

Is true Floyd (with roger and SR) had everything he needed to learn from and take his skills far beyond his uncle and father did

Manny was just fighting for food to get out of poverty

The reason why im a pacquiao fan is because he fights with his heart, floyd fight with his skills.

I mean in the FIGHT OF THE CENTURY, even floyd sr was mad at floyd for not being more aggressive. Floyd shouldve gone for the knockout or at least try, but he didnt..... he did the less possible to win. I dont find proud in that.

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd had said that "I can't afford to give him any"

The amount was too low for it to be a starting point. Especially when everyone was thinking 50/50 back then. If you consider it a starting point then you and Floyd should have considered $45 mill for Floyd a counter offer. There was also talk about 45/45 and 10 for the winner. None of that from Floyd's side though ...... Then Floyd could have come back with something else more reasonable but he didn't.

Floyd says all kinds of stuff, and it never got serious at that point.

No it was not too low to be a starting point, because that was more than Floyd made against Oscar. He obviously wanted to be Oscar in that situation but if Manny and Top Rank were serious at that point it would have went differently.

Those offers weren't even presented directly to Floyd or his people, they were done through the media for spin. If they would have actually went to Floyd to work it out something could have happened, you never know how it would go. They never tried and played the spin game which you ate up.

That still doesn't answer my question to you though, Manny might have made a better percentage at that point if they tried since he was hotter at that point, did he make the right call then?

If we are going down rabbit holes that one is just as valid as yours.

[MrRolltide91]

Thats actually a good post, id green k you if i could. But, dont you think pacquiao work as hard as floyd? maybe not now but earlier in his career (prior to marqeuz knockout)

Is true Floyd (with roger and SR) had everything he needed to learn from and take his skills far beyond his uncle and father did

Manny was just fighting for food to get out of poverty

The reason why im a pacquiao fan is because he fights with his heart, floyd fight with his skills.

I mean in the FIGHT OF THE CENTURY, even floyd sr was mad at floyd for not being more aggressive. Floyd shouldve gone for the knockout or at least try, but he didnt..... he did the less possible to win. I dont find proud in that.

he was mad because he thought the judges was gon give it to manny.


at one point in the corner in the late rounds, Floyd sr thought his son was losing.