Gennady Golovkin at 168- who beats him?

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  • ElMeroChingon
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    #41
    Originally posted by King_
    GGG is a small Middleweight and if there were enough challenges in his division- he would rule 160 for as long as he's active and if he had the chance he would most definitely own all belts/be undisputed-lineal champ of the division.


    But these fights aren't happening. I agree with some posters that Monroe Jr IS the best possible opponent for the stay-busy date of June 12th, etc. The problem is how long are we going to keep saying this? This has been going on for 2 years now. The whole "Top 15 fighter A __ was the best available opponent who was willing to fight on this date ___"


    When is HBO/GGG's team going to stop taking advantage of his growing fame and GET him a big fight by moving up to 168. I'll say this one LAST stay-busy fight against Monroe is OK because they're waiting for Cotto and that's the only fight left for him at 160. If they get Cotto next, then fine. No problems. But if they don't..... are people here really going to be okay with his team following the same "GGG-model" for one more year? If they don't get Cotto and they do it again afterwards, they're clearly milking GGG.


    So I am curious who do you guys think beats GGG at 168?


    I don't think anyone does. Golovkin beats everyone from 160-168 and he's one of only two fighters in the entire world who could beat Andre Ward. (Kovalev).


    Does his team not realize how much credit a small MW like GGG would receive-historically, by cleaning out 168? Which is what he would do, IMO.
    Dumbest thing i've heard.

    160 is wher the money and the names are at.

    He could fight Quilin/Lee/Lara/Andrade/Vanes/ and so on.

    Biggest fights in boxing period, are against Canelo and Cotto.

    Cotto or Canelo can be next after either one loosses or wins, doesn't matter.

    AT 160 is where the names and the money are, he would be an idiot to move up to 168, GGG is as big as Canelo, he's small for that weight.

    He will stay at 160, If he wins and hopefully fear makes Cotto vacate, or If Canelo wins, hopefully he gets in the ring with him after they fight.


    You know how many 168lb'ers would kill to be able to make 160-(maybe)154, that's where the money is at.

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    • Ryn0
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      #42
      Ward and quite easily I think. As long as Ward gets this tune up over and done with.

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        #43
        Ward beats him easily. 8-4 clearly, at worst. 10-2 if the best Ward comes in that night.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
          Dumbest thing i've heard.

          160 is wher the money and the names are at.
          That's why he's calling out Mayweather and Canelo, a welterweight and JMW. Cause there are so many money fights at 160. Please. Ward and Froch would generate more money than anyone at 160 excluding Cotto.

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            #45
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            That's why he's calling out Mayweather and Canelo, a welterweight and JMW. Cause there are so many money fights at 160. Please. Ward and Froch would generate more money than anyone at 160 excluding Cotto.
            Froch for sure, but he's not interested. Ward, not really, only if ROC Nation puts up good money. But RN CEO wants it on PPV so not likely soon. Canelo hasn't fought at SWW in well over a year. Floyd has had a belt at SWW for 3 years, and GGG would drop to SWW to face the champ.

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            • Barcham
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              #46
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              That's why he's calling out Mayweather and Canelo, a welterweight and JMW. Cause there are so many money fights at 160. Please. Ward and Froch would generate more money than anyone at 160 excluding Cotto.
              Canelo fights at 155. That is MIDDLEWEIGHT. GGG has also never called out either Mayweather or Canelo. Ward's next fight is at 172! That is LHW! Froch's manager has just said that Froch may never fight again and may retire. Doesn't anyone follow the damn sport anymore? None of Ward's fans seem to have a clue about what is going on in boxing today.

              If Ward really wants to fight Golovkin, he should ask his mega rich promoter to approach GGG's team with an offer he cannot refuse. Offer him 3 or 5 million to fight Ward. It would be his biggest payday by far and he would never turn it down. If Ward is that much of a superstar for Roc Nation, it would be a small price to pay to get Ward back out there in the view of fight fans against the current monster of the sport. If Ward is so confident of beating him, and RN have confidence in their star fighter, make the offer and get the fight done. It would be pocket change for Jay Z. and it would put Roc Nation Boxing immediately on the map.

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #47
                Nobody at 168 has a chance against GGG except for Ward and that fight is 50/50.

                That's the irony of GGG haters/xenophobes wanting him to move up, citing MW is a bad division. SMW is just as bad.

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                • Jubei
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  That's why he's calling out Mayweather and Canelo, a welterweight and JMW. Cause there are so many money fights at 160. Please. Ward and Froch would generate more money than anyone at 160 excluding Cotto.
                  Canelo can't even make LMW, he is fighting at MW already, even though his influence and popularity allows him to fight at the canelo weight. Also last i heard Floyd has a belt at 154, thats where GGG would move down to face Floyd. What's wrong about "dreaming" to fight the #1 p4p fighter at a weight where this guy is champion?

                  Carl Froch already declined the fight even though GGG would travel right into Froch's backyard for the fight. Froch doesn't want to leave boxing getting destroyed by TripleG.

                  Ward is fighting at 172 and him and specially his team made it clear he is not ready at all to face GGG anytime soon. He needs a "couple" tuneups, who knows if he can even make 168? Until then he will be making Abrahams leftovers move to LHW to face him in his backyard in Oakland.

                  Also where do you get the funny idea from that Ward generates alot of money? A wet dream?

                  People say GGG has to move up but there aren't any fights out there at 168 right now, none of the top fighters are interested in fighting GGG anytime soon or they have others fights upcoming. If there was a big fight looming GGG would move up, but right now he will be waiting what happens with the Cotto/Canelo situation, both of them would be bigger fights than anything at 168.
                  Last edited by Jubei; 05-08-2015, 10:59 PM.

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