Ward and B-Hop (if he can make the weight)
Gennady Golovkin at 168- who beats him?
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Golovkin is no small MW but that's obviously a ready made excuse if he moves up and loses.
I think he does well against most at 168 but Ward is someone i would pick to beat him.Comment
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Ward can beat him. Of course there are some assumptions, which I am using that Ward is comparable to his former self, with some degradation thrown in for age and ring rust.
I think an 80% Ward beats him convincingly on the cards without being knocked down once.
I used to like ward but have grown tired of his BS and not wanting to fight, so if GGG KTFO of him I wouldnt really care.Comment
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IDK why people keep parroting that. Hes a regular size middleweight. If hes coming in 168-170 fight night, hes over 20 pounds north of the next lower weight class, hes a legit middleweight. Small middleweight is like DLH, Tito, Spinks, Cotto ect.
If 0 is tiny, 5 average and 10 JCC jr, then GGG is probably a 4. Just because he might be a few pounds under the middleweight average doesnt make him small.Comment
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So you start and finish by saying he is a small MW, why do you think this?GGG is a small Middleweight and if there were enough challenges in his division- he would rule 160 for as long as he's active and if he had the chance he would most definitely own all belts/be undisputed-lineal champ of the division.
But these fights aren't happening. I agree with some posters that Monroe Jr IS the best possible opponent for the stay-busy date of June 12th, etc. The problem is how long are we going to keep saying this? This has been going on for 2 years now. The whole "Top 15 fighter A __ was the best available opponent who was willing to fight on this date ___"
When is HBO/GGG's team going to stop taking advantage of his growing fame and GET him a big fight by moving up to 168. I'll say this one LAST stay-busy fight against Monroe is OK because they're waiting for Cotto and that's the only fight left for him at 160. If they get Cotto next, then fine. No problems. But if they don't..... are people here really going to be okay with his team following the same "GGG-model" for one more year? If they don't get Cotto and they do it again afterwards, they're clearly milking GGG.
So I am curious who do you guys think beats GGG at 168?
I don't think anyone does. Golovkin beats everyone from 160-168 and he's one of only two fighters in the entire world who could beat Andre Ward. (Kovalev).
Does his team not realize how much credit a small MW like GGG would receive-historically, by cleaning out 168? Which is what he would do, IMO.Comment
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Exactly, it's gotta be an excuse just in case he loses up there because i can't think of any other reason.Comment
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Did you come to that conclusion watching GGG fight that collection of murderous punchers and elite boxers on GGGs resume? GTFOHGGG stops Ward before round 6. In fact, the first clean shot Ward gets hit with signals the end of the fight. He would go down and if he is able to continue the ref would be stopping the fight soon after. He could only make it to the next round if it is a late knock down. In that case, he may not answer the bell for the next round.
I agree with you. I cannot see Golovkin moving to LHW, it would be simply too much weight for him to gain at this point in his life. I just look at that as a 'dream' possibility, like fighting Floyd. I would not want to see titles at stake in a catchweight fight so I do not even consider that as a possibility.
It's also possible that Ward can no longer make 168 and will have to fight Kovalev and will be destroyed. That could also ruin my premise.
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