Gennady Golovkin at 168- who beats him?

[King_]

GGG is a small Middleweight and if there were enough challenges in his division- he would rule 160 for as long as he's active and if he had the chance he would most definitely own all belts/be undisputed-lineal champ of the division.


But these fights aren't happening. I agree with some posters that Monroe Jr IS the best possible opponent for the stay-busy date of June 12th, etc. The problem is how long are we going to keep saying this? This has been going on for 2 years now. The whole "Top 15 fighter A __ was the best available opponent who was willing to fight on this date ___"


When is HBO/GGG's team going to stop taking advantage of his growing fame and GET him a big fight by moving up to 168. I'll say this one LAST stay-busy fight against Monroe is OK because they're waiting for Cotto and that's the only fight left for him at 160. If they get Cotto next, then fine. No problems. But if they don't..... are people here really going to be okay with his team following the same "GGG-model" for one more year? If they don't get Cotto and they do it again afterwards, they're clearly milking GGG.


So I am curious who do you guys think beats GGG at 168?


I don't think anyone does. Golovkin beats everyone from 160-168 and he's one of only two fighters in the entire world who could beat Andre Ward. (Kovalev).


Does his team not realize how much credit a small MW like GGG would receive-historically, by cleaning out 168? Which is what he would do, IMO.

[PlasterWraps]

He probably will jump to 168 soon, mid/late next year.

I think the Ward fight is tough for him though, but that's it.

[King_]

He probably will jump to 168 soon, mid/late next year.

I think the Ward fight is tough for him though, but that's it.

Yes, that's his toughest fight. He wouldn't fight Ward in his first fight at 168, obviously.

[King_]

The ONLY fights worth GGG not moving up are Cotto and Canelo. But if they fight each other next, Golovkin is screwed.

His team NEEDS to make sure Cotto or Canelo happen next, at all costs. If it doesn't.... he has to move up to 168. IMO

[Mike_R]

Assuming Ward hasn't lost a step with his horrendous layoff- that is a very tough fight. Would love to see GGG take on Ward.

Would have said that JCC Jr. would have been fun to watch but that pretty much evaporated recently... But maybe it still happens? I don't think he's got anything for GGG though.

I'd still like to see GGG stay around 160 long enough to maybe get Canelo or Cotto- but it's also easy to imagine them avoiding him (for good reason).


Not sure if Froch would agree to fight GGG but that would be interesting to see. I'd predict Golovkins power holds true at 168, but probably drops off pretty sharply anywhere north of super middle.

[tredh]

Ward beats GGG

[RAV3N]

If GGG cant get cotto or canelo in the next fight or the one after then he has to move up to 168.

Have a tune up or 2 and then take on ward.

At the moment he is pretty much wasting his prime, he is already 33 and still waiting for his big fight.

[Barcham]

I think there are a number of fights left for GGG at 160... Canelo in the future, Lemieux if he beats N'Dam, Lee, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Andrade in the future if he decides to move up...

I see no great contests at 168. Sturm and Abraham ducked him in Germany and certainly will not try their luck now. Dirrell is with Haymon. Maybe Groves or DeGale if they manage to get a title. Ward is pointless at the moment, he is not ready by his own admission and before there is any money in that fight, Ward will have to do a cleaning at SMW. We know he won't fight the Dirrells because they are his 'brothers'. He most likely cannot fight Haymon fighters either. So the pool is small and the same one as GGG would target. That leaves little there.

The best thing in my eyes would be for GGG to continue his cleanup at MW and for Ward to get his ass moving and clean up SMW to win all the titles there. Then we can have a true superfight between the undisputed, undefeated unified MW champion and the undisputed, undefeated, unified SMW champion. It would be a first and it would go down in history.

The winner could eventually face off against Kovalev in another superfight of undefeated, undisputed, unified champions once Kovalev takes care of business at LHW.

Yeah, it's a dream but it's one hell of a good one!

[just the facts]

I think there are a number of fights left for GGG at 160... Canelo in the future, Lemieux if he beats N'Dam, Lee, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Andrade in the future if he decides to move up...

I see no great contests at 168. Sturm and Abraham ducked him in Germany and certainly will not try their luck now. Dirrell is with Haymon. Maybe Groves or DeGale if they manage to get a title. Ward is pointless at the moment, he is not ready by his own admission and before there is any money in that fight, Ward will have to do a cleaning at SMW. We know he won't fight the Dirrells because they are his 'brothers'. He most likely cannot fight Haymon fighters either. So the pool is small and the same one as GGG would target. That leaves little there.

The best thing in my eyes would be for GGG to continue his cleanup at MW and for Ward to get his ass moving and clean up SMW to win all the titles there. Then we can have a true superfight between the undisputed, undefeated unified MW champion and the undisputed, undefeated, unified SMW champion. It would be a first and it would go down in history.

The winner could eventually face off against Kovalev in another superfight of undefeated, undisputed, unified champions once Kovalev takes care of business at LHW.

Yeah, it's a dream but it's one hell of a good one!

of course you think GGG should stay at 160. If your being honest with yourself, you know if he moves up, Ward probably beats him

[HI-TECH Boxing]

I think there are a number of fights left for GGG at 160... Canelo in the future, Lemieux if he beats N'Dam, Lee, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Andrade in the future if he decides to move up...

I see no great contests at 168. Sturm and Abraham ducked him in Germany and certainly will not try their luck now. Dirrell is with Haymon. Maybe Groves or DeGale if they manage to get a title. Ward is pointless at the moment, he is not ready by his own admission and before there is any money in that fight, Ward will have to do a cleaning at SMW. We know he won't fight the Dirrells because they are his 'brothers'. He most likely cannot fight Haymon fighters either. So the pool is small and the same one as GGG would target. That leaves little there.

The best thing in my eyes would be for GGG to continue his cleanup at MW and for Ward to get his ass moving and clean up SMW to win all the titles there. Then we can have a true superfight between the undisputed, undefeated unified MW champion and the undisputed, undefeated, unified SMW champion. It would be a first and it would go down in history.

The winner could eventually face off against Kovalev in another superfight of undefeated, undisputed, unified champions once Kovalev takes care of business at LHW.

Yeah, it's a dream but it's one hell of a good one!

I agree 100%, this is exactly how I've been viewing the situation, couldn't have said it better!!
But could you see GGG fighting Kovalev or even Beterbiev (I think Beterbiev may have a shot at taking Kovalev in the future tbh), great fights but I'm afraid GGG would be too small for those guys.