The Believers and Non-believers: Vasyl Lomachenko - SIGN UP HERE!

[Weebler I]

How do you guys explain fighters like GGG and Roman Gonzalez being as high as top 5 p4p despite not being American? Roman for the most part fights overseas while GGG is still vastly unproven yet both are getting praise despite the "nationality barrier".

North American fighters get a bounce. For example, Broner was installed at #6 and Canelo was prematurely pushed up the list too. Terence Crawford is already on the list for beating Beltran and Dulorme.

I'm not a Wlad fan but if he was American the talk would all be about the greatness of Klitschko rather than the weakness of the division narrative (truth is somewhere in between).

Fwiw Golovkin isn't in the top 5, he's still #7 Ring and not recognised on TRB. If Golovkin was from the US he would be PPV and top 5 ages ago.

[Dean_Razorback]

[Tom Cruise]

[Humean]

They're not #1 simply because they don't deserve that top spot. Point is they get plenty of love even when they're not necessarily proving themselves more than any top fighter. If Lomachenko goes on to beat good opposition he'll be at the top of the list in due time. Being a foreign fighter won't hold him back if he truly deserves it.

If Lomachenko, or any other foreign fighter, proves equally as much as a US fighter it will be the US fighter at the top of the P4P list. P4P lists are far too prone to bias because there is no true objective way to determine them, it is certainly not an issue of what anyone deserves.

[PainfromUkraine]

Hmm not sure he have better skill than normal for a euro fighter but needs to be tested against a slick fighter with skills.

not convinced looks like a white hope to me

Troll? One of the dumbest posts i've seen in a while... LOL @ higher skill "than normal" for 'Euro' fighter. There are more 'Euro' fighters on top of boxing right now than American.

Won't even address the race baiting.

[lefthook2daliva]

Well in Ukraine he is called Vasya, but I guess we should just say War Loma!

Whatever this is, it's a HI-TECH movement!

There ya go. "Hi-Tech". Not great but it'll work;

WAR HI-TECH!!

[puro dinamita]

whoever doesn't believe i just don't know what to say to them that dude is gonna be great later in his career but he better not run into francisco vargas in that period el bandido is gonna be just as great

[In Motion]

I feel sorry for the Russian boxing fans. All of your fighters are either obscenely racist, afraid to step up in competition, or show no skill whatsoever. Loma is of the ladder portion. He's truly NOTHING special at all and shows no signs of being anything special in the future. Please tell me what this guy has done or what he does that's extraordinary?

[IboxSouthpaw]

Rigondeaux is a cut or two above him .. Open your eyes .. Rigo is almost perfect in the ring

[SN!PER]

Loma was the star of the show on May 2nd! I've lost interest in Manny and Floyd. It's all about Lomachenko now. He's taking over.

I'm a fan of both Rigondeaux and Lomachenko, but I feel Loma has a more exciting style, more time on his side, and is on his way to the top of the p4p.