Defense Now More Important Than Offense

[Check_hooks]

Where the compu clinch thread for this fight? Floyd had Pac in headlocks like this was WWE

[-DSG-]

We knew this going in, holding, bending below the waist, putting his weight on top of Pacquiao's neck, all intelligent tactics that others couldn't utilize. I also like how Mayweather would put his left shoulder into Pacquiao's chest as he got close to touching the ropes. Like I said going in, Mayweather will show him a new dynamic.

Good post I have no problem with how Floyd fight considering I'm a Klitschko fan I'm biased 100 % I dont like watching black boxers because they don't want to fight they use their speed and athleticism and that's fine they do what they have to do its up to other boxers to make these guys fight!

[mezoomozaa]

Someone wrote on twitter that Mayweather is Chelsea of Boxing, he is boring and destroying the sport by parking the bus, but he wins and that is why everyone is hating on him.

[daggum]

Come on Daggum I thought you were a better poster by far. Usually you dont take anyside and just troll every fighters and it's really funny but today you sound like a plain pact ard.

what did i say that was wrong? the guys who subvert the rule the most are the most successful. there's no doubt about that. floyd, wlad, ward. none of these guys fight within the rules like guys like pac, kovalev, and golovking. this is why there's such a huge gap between "greatness" and "entertainment" the guys who are "great" know that their best chance at winning is doing illegal maneuvers and that in turn makes their fights boring. You see when a ref fails to enforce the rules he is taking a stance whether he realizes it or not. He's taking the stance that inherently favors the "defensive" fighter by allowing him to break the rules constantly.

[Beater_of_ass]

It has nothing to do with offense or defense, it's what you do with it. Watching that fight I kept thinking Manny couldn't pull the trigger. Floyd landed that first straight right hand and that was it, the fight was over. Manny was someone surprised a bigger and much better counter puncher than Marquez somehow hit way harder. JMM ruined the killer in Manny, that's when Manny lost to Floyd without question the fight proved it.

[Doctor_Tenma]

that's why boxing is a fringe sport. these guys who cheat and break the rules can win but they don't make for entertaining fights because they have to cheat to win.

I absolutely love that stuff and he makes it difficult to catch, that's why prime Hopkins was one of my old time favorites. All that will forever be a part of the sport and I'll forever be an advocate for it. Only issue is when one makes it obvious and it's excessive. Mayweather neutralized Pacquiao like no one ever has.

[Jay Volcano]

Fighting the way Floyd Mayweather does it's extremely hard. His reflexes and timing are off the charts.

[daggum]

I absolutely love that stuff and he makes it difficult to catch, that's why prime Hopkins was one of my old time favorites. All that will forever be a part of the sport and I'll forever be an advocate for it. Only issue is when one makes it obvious and it's excessive. Mayweather neutralized Pacquiao like no one ever has.

you advocate for cheating as a fight strategy?

every time pac threw a combo floyd did it. that's not excessive? then what is? apparently nothing. just don't go around pretending that floyd is "great" he's great at subverting the rules and getting away with it. what would happen if he wasn't allowed to do those things? big difference right? you think he would just constantly move for 12 straight rounds? thats awful tiring. could he use head movement to avoid all those punches? awful difficult. its just easier to cheat. like he says smarter not harder. this is why boxing is so anti-climatic. after the first round everyone knew what he was doing. that's why the maidana fight was so tough. maidana is an average fighter but he didn't let floyd constantly subvert the rules and floyd was forced to fight on nearly even terms. pac let floyd do what he was doing. he should have been smashing him in the back of the brain-stem when he bent over or smashing his elbow in his jaw every time he was held. unfortunately we have seen time and time again that when fighters do that they are the ones who get blamed for being dirty simply for trying to fight on an equal playing field.

[SplitSecond]

pacquiao took less damage in this fight, so if defense wins fights pacquiao won, i dont know what people see in running, but damn when someone is running people automatically assume schooling

no one seems to actually pay attention to the punches being landed, whether floyds shots are missing or not, floyds punchstats for awhile have been one of the biggest shams of the sport

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We knew this going in, holding, bending below the waist, putting his weight on top of Pacquiao's neck, all intelligent tactics that others couldn't utilize. I also like how Mayweather would put his left shoulder into Pacquiao's chest as he got close to touching the ropes. Like I said going in, Mayweather will show him a new dynamic.

We knew?

So you are now agreeing that Kenny Bayless didn't help matters? As some have tried to state, Manny has to get in range to beat Floyd. Unfortunately, if Manny gets in range, Floyd does those things to negate Manny's offense. Fans were seeing this and booing but Kenny Bayless just did what he usually does. Nothing except separate the two. Same happened in the Maidana fight. I can't just blame Kenny because other refs let FLoyd get away with all that too. So of course, Floyd does it.