Comments Thread For: R. Mayweather: Floyd Needs KO Win To Get Full Credit

[PAC-BOY]

Dudes are so shook it is sad. He starts off blaming them [Pac fans] saying that they won't give him no credit.

Then in the very next breath, he proceeds to say: "Floyd's got to show, to me, he's got to show he's a dominant force over Pacquiao. That's what I think he's got to show. And then that shows how good he is. But he's got to show that. He's got to show that."

"As good as Floyd supposed to be......" - Roger Mayweather

What do you mean Roger, I thought he was definitely the best ever, better than Ali, better than Robinson?




Looks to me like both he and Senior don't think Floyd is up for the challenge. They need the reassurance that Floyd is as good as he says he is and feel that they need a quick KO in order to win or they are going to get worked over.

I bet they both are betting on Manny!

[mathed]

He won't get full credit no matter what if he knock him out tards will say he juicing if he dominate and win UD tards will say he moved to much and didn't trade

All he had to do was take the test but he thought it was better to have USADA in his back pocket so he could juice. That damn Floyd, creating another way to take credit from a potential win again..........you can always just blame Pac fans doe.....wait...you already did

[The Problem Child]

Credit for fighting Pacquiao 5 years past his prime.

Thats why it will be so humiliating and embarrassing when he loses, and it will make Pacquiaos victory that much more impressive.

[ADP02]

However Fortune was dirty, and Freddie said so:

February 2, 2010:

Fortune is an Australian native and former power lifter who moved to the United States to compete as a boxer. He trained under Roach in the 1990s and later became Pacquiao***8217;s conditioning coach.

The alleged defamation concerns a comment Roach made in a March 2010 interview with a reporter for the online publication ******.com.

After discussing boxer James Toney, Roach then told the reporter, ***8220;I think had one other fighter on steroids ***8230; Justin Fortune. I know that he***8217;d been there before.***8221;

In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.

***8220;During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,***8221; Roach said in the statement. ***8220;Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.***8221;

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/manny-pacquiaos-trainer-former-conditioning-coach-to-duke-it-out-in-court/

Manny got rid of one cheat, and re-hired another one. If you wanna crucify Floyd, you have to crucify Manny too!

Floyd is the only one that has Ariza and Memo for this fight. Floyd called Ariza a cheat then hired him. Too boot, they are "consulting" with Memo to get Floyd more power.

Here is what Floyd does the month before he gets tested. Due to side effects, Floyd had to wear sunglasses and a hat.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CPpGeyND1DY

[Bronx2245]

Oscar was more active prior to fighting Manny and Oscar fought at 150lbs the fight prior to Manny. Even after the fight, Oscar's trainers blamed Manny's southpaw style as the real issue not the weight ..... Oscar was making weight even before the weigh in.

Issue had in part to do with Oscar's training game plan to come in light to gain speed and like what I just said, Oscar was having issues against quick explosive southpaws in training camp. That just continued once he fought an even better southpaw in Manny.

I have said this in prior posts that against both Manny and Floyd, Mosley and Oscar were no longer prime fighters. Far from it.

Oscar had one fight before Manny, and that was Steve Forbes. Unless you forgot, Forbes was no challenge for Oscar AT ALL. Here's a trip down memory lane:

MAY 4, 2008:

De La Hoya had little to fear from the light-hitting Forbes, a former 130-pound champion fighting at 150 pounds, and it showed. De La Hoya attacked from the opening bell, and the fight soon settled into a predictable pattern, with De La Hoya stalking Forbes and punishing him with combinations to the body and head.

But De La Hoya was greeted by scattered boos by the crowd at the end of the fight after failing to either put Forbes down or stop him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3380472

Oscar was not GODZILLA when he fought Manny!

[Bronx2245]

Floyd is the only one that has Ariza and Memo for this fight. Floyd called Ariza a cheat then hired him. Too boot, they are "consulting" with Memo to get Floyd more power.

Here is what Floyd does the month before he gets tested. Due to side effects, Floyd had to wear sunglasses and a hat.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CPpGeyND1DY

Can you admit that they both hired cheats? I think that's fair.

[ADP02]

Oscar had one fight before Manny, and that was Steve Forbes. Unless you forgot, Forbes was no challenge for Oscar AT ALL. Here's a trip down memory lane:

MAY 4, 2008:

De La Hoya had little to fear from the light-hitting Forbes, a former 130-pound champion fighting at 150 pounds, and it showed. De La Hoya attacked from the opening bell, and the fight soon settled into a predictable pattern, with De La Hoya stalking Forbes and punishing him with combinations to the body and head.

But De La Hoya was greeted by scattered boos by the crowd at the end of the fight after failing to either put Forbes down or stop him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3380472

Oscar was not GODZILLA when he fought Manny!

Where do you think Manny was fighting at just earlier that year? But I'm sure that you will not see it the same way even though it was much more of an extreme for Manny than your excuse for Forbes.
- Marquez: 130
- Diaz: 135
- Oscar: 147


Forbes had fought at those higher weights often enough prior to the Oscar fight.

As for the boos, well Floyd gets to hear plenty of that in his fights. Right?



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[ADP02]

Can you admit that they both hired cheats? I think that's fair.

No. According to Floyd, it was when those fighters are with Ariza that they become stronger. With Fortune, Floyd said that Manny is no longer the Manny of old. Not the same Manny anymore. That is more than likely why Floyd accepted this fight in 2015.

Floyd was calling Ariza the PEDs dealer up to a year ago when he was with Maidana. Now Ariza has the undetectable PEDs due to his "consulting" with Memo.

SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion. It was done through her coaches.

We both know that Floyd's coach is Ariza! Cough cough!!!

[BlackSoul]

Manny was considered a tune up for Barrera, and was expected heavily to lose to De La Hoya.

ANYBODY name me 3 physical advantages manny pacquiao has over floyd mayweather

[Bronx2245]

Where do you think Manny was fighting at just earlier that year? But I'm sure that you will not see it the same way even though it was much more of an extreme for Manny than your excuse for Forbes.
- Marquez: 130
- Diaz: 135
- Oscar: 147


Forbes had fought at those higher weight often enough prior to Oscar fight.

As for the boos, well Floyd gets to hear plenty of that in his fights. Right?

Again, I give props to Manny for coming to 147, but Oscar was at 147, not 154, like he was when he fought Floyd. Most fighters don't like to lose that kind of weight. If Floyd was to move up and beat GGG at 160, I think it would be more significant than asking GGG to come down to 154, because obviously, GGG is more comfortable at 160, or he would be fighting at 154 now. If Floyd made GGG come to 154, he'll be crucified, but if Manny makes a guy come down, then he gets a pass. I think that's hypocritical.