Comments Thread For: R. Mayweather: Floyd Needs KO Win To Get Full Credit

[Bronx2245]

No. According to Floyd, it was when those fighters are with Ariza that they become stronger. With Fortune, Floyd said that Manny is no longer the Manny of old. Not the same Manny anymore. That is more than likely why Floyd accepted this fight in 2015.

Floyd was calling Ariza the PEDs dealer up to a year ago when he was with Maidana. Now Ariza has the undetectable PEDs due to his "consulting" with Memo.

SPIEGEL: What kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

Heredia: Business ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion. It was done through her coaches.

We both know that Floyd's coach is Ariza! Cough cough!!!

If you can't admit that they both hired cheats, then you are a hypocrite, just like Floyd!

[therealpugilist]

If Mayweather wins decision there will be excuses

IF Mayweather wins by ko their will be death threats and discrediting

Floyd is on the Ariza shakes doe.....was Manny?

His gloves were customized doe...NSAC approved them

Manny had leg cramps doe

Bayless wouldn't let him fight his fight doe

Mayweather was too big doe

Manny didn't where the right socks doe

the drug testing drained Manny doe


yadda yadda yadda...yall said Mayweather was scared so deal with another L

[ADP02]

Again, I give props to Manny for coming to 147, but Oscar was at 147, not 154, like he was when he fought Floyd. Most fighters don't like to lose that kind of weight. If Floyd was to move up and beat GGG at 160, I think it would be more significant than asking GGG to come down to 154, because obviously, GGG is more comfortable at 160, or he would be fighting at 154 now. If Floyd made GGG come to 154, he'll be crucified, but if Manny makes a guy come down, then he gets a pass. I think that's hypocritical.

Its more like Floyd fighting Andre Ward at ~162 since Floyd has already fought at 154 3 times and has a title there ..... not going to happen.


Lets face it. If you look up the word hypocritical in the dictionary, there will be a picture of Floyd there.

[Bronx2245]

Its more like Floyd fighting Andre Ward at ~162 since Floyd has already fought at 154 3 times and has a title there ..... not going to happen.


Lets face it. If you look up the word hypocritical in the dictionary, there will be a picture of Floyd there.

You'll also see a synonym: "Pacquiao Fan"

[ADP02]

If you can't admit that they both hired cheats, then you are a hypocrite, just like Floyd!

I'm just repeating what Floyd said. Your hero Floyd does not believe you.

- Only one of the 2 specifically called out then hired a PEDs cheat for this fight.
- Only one of the 2 has a well known admitted PEDs cheat that has admitted to knowing of 20 undetectable designer PEDs.
- Only one of the 2 camps have said that they are more powerful now at 38 than they ever were.

Just stating facts .....

Floyd on Manny and Ariza:
" .........but I wasn't pleased with his performance and I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao.
I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots. Once again, I'm not saying this guy is doing anything, but I don't see the same snap in his shots.


'He's getting tired when he wasn't getting tired before. I'm seeing something totally different I don't know if you guys see it, but that's what I see."


"In the Adrien Broner fight, he was a lot stronger than he was in his past fights," Mayweather said of Maidana. "I don't know if Alex Ariza played a major role. When I sit back and I look, I look at Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and I've noticed that ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore, there's been a total change in his power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...m-Bradley.html

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._manny_pa.html


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[Rath]

Like hell. If Floyd knocks him out, you won't be able to have a decent conversation about this fight, without PED/Steroid accusations.

blame floyd and the mayweathers, they started it.

and to make matters worst instead of releasing evidence that floyd is being randomly tested by USADA to shut the doubters up, they keep mum about it.

not a single floyd fan is calling floyd to task on this matter even.

[Bronx2245]

I'm just repeating what Floyd said. Your hero Floyd does not believe you.

- Only one of the 2 specifically called out then hired a PEDs cheat for this fight.
- Only one of the 2 has a well known admitted PEDs cheat that has admitted to knowing of 20 undetectable designer PEDs.
- Only one of the 2 camps have said that they are more powerful now at 38 than they ever were.

Just stating facts .....

Floyd on Manny and Ariza:
" .........but I wasn't pleased with his performance and I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao.
I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots. Once again, I'm not saying this guy is doing anything, but I don't see the same snap in his shots.


'He's getting tired when he wasn't getting tired before. I'm seeing something totally different I don't know if you guys see it, but that's what I see."


"In the Adrien Broner fight, he was a lot stronger than he was in his past fights," Mayweather said of Maidana. "I don't know if Alex Ariza played a major role. When I sit back and I look, I look at Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and I've noticed that ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore, there's been a total change in his power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...m-Bradley.html

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._manny_pa.html


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I'm just repeating what Freddie Roach said:

January 9, 2014:

"I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao."

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15910.html

A judge says Manny Pacquiao’s former conditioning coach and his trainer can go toe to toe in the legal ring.

Justin Fortune sued Freddie Roach for allegedly telling a reporter he previously used performance enhancing drugs. After denying a motion by Roach’s attorney seeking dismissal of Fortune’s complaint on grounds it violated his right to free speech, the judge set a trial date of April 10.

Fortune is an Australian native and former power lifter who moved to the United States to compete as a boxer. He trained under Roach in the 1990s and later became Pacquiao’s conditioning coach.

The alleged defamation concerns a comment Roach made in a March 2010 interview with a reporter for the online publication ******.com.

After discussing boxer James Toney, Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”

In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.

“During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/manny-pacquiaos-trainer-former-conditioning-coach-to-duke-it-out-in-court/

They're both cheaters and hypocrites, yet I'm the only one who will admit it. You're still in denial!

[ADP02]

I'm just repeating what Freddie Roach said:

January 9, 2014:

"I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," stated world-class trainer Freddie Roach, who made explosive accussations about world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Alex Ariza when recently asked about his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao."

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15910.html

A judge says Manny Pacquiao’s former conditioning coach and his trainer can go toe to toe in the legal ring.

Justin Fortune sued Freddie Roach for allegedly telling a reporter he previously used performance enhancing drugs. After denying a motion by Roach’s attorney seeking dismissal of Fortune’s complaint on grounds it violated his right to free speech, the judge set a trial date of April 10.

Fortune is an Australian native and former power lifter who moved to the United States to compete as a boxer. He trained under Roach in the 1990s and later became Pacquiao’s conditioning coach.

The alleged defamation concerns a comment Roach made in a March 2010 interview with a reporter for the online publication ******.com.

After discussing boxer James Toney, Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”

In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.

“During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/02/manny-pacquiaos-trainer-former-conditioning-coach-to-duke-it-out-in-court/

They're both cheaters and hypocrites, yet I'm the only one who will admit it. You're still in denial!

Sorry bud but you know the truth and you are the one in denial. Can't compare one with Ariza and Memo.

Even your hero doesn't believe you. Floyd says its no longer the same Manny.

Furthermore, only one of the 2 said that they are, at 38, more powerful now than ever.

[Bronx2245]

Sorry bud but you know the truth and you are the one in denial. Can't compare one with Ariza and Memo.

Even your hero doesn't believe you. Floyd says its no longer the same Manny.

Furthermore, only one of the 2 said that they are, at 38, more powerful now than ever.

Manny has had 2 S&C coaches, Ariza and Fortune, and they are both, as Roach says, "SHADY." Neither Manny, nor Floyd, can escape the truth. They are both suspect, because they are associated with, as Roach says, "SHADY" people. However, only one refused to take random blood tests. Only one called off the biggest fight ever because he needed a 24-day cut-off. If you supported Manny, when he had Ariza, and you think Manny was clean, then you have no right to complain about Floyd. I'm willing to **** on them both, but you just can't find it in your heart to criticize Manny. That's not just being a fan, that's worshipping a God.

[Rath]

Floyd and the Mayweathers started it.

Floyd's minions supported it.

now that it's coming back to haunt them, they are crying.

look at all Floyd's minions on this thread, not one of them is even interested if Floyd is being randomly tested for drug by USADA.

but they keep whining Floyd will not get the credit he deserved for beating Pac