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  • Bronx2245
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    #51
    Originally posted by jjsmyth87
    Manny had agreed to complete random testing as long ago as after the clottey fight. He also agreed to a 14 day cutoff with a test right after as well as unlimited urine testing as long ago as before the clottey fight. Victor Conte admitted to supplying Barry bonds steroids, nobody has ever admitted to seeing or giving Manny steroids. That's a huge difference. Manny has also passed every single test he's ever taken, while bonds used hgh which the mlb didn't even test for. Again that's a huge difference. If Floyds team wouldn't have falsely accused him because they were jealous, this wouldn't even be a discussion right now
    Manny didn't agree to the 14 day cut off when the fight "should have happened," yet people excuse him for that. Nobody has ever admitted to seeing or giving Manny steroids, but yet Freddie Roach stated Ariza was giving Manny "suspect" shakes, and again, Manny gets a pass, and endorsements. Manny's current S&C coach was also accused by Freddie of using steroids:

    March 12, 2010:

    Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

    “I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

    “… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

    http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...itive-for-peds

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    • ADP02
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      #52
      Who says that we will not be giving anyone any credit. We will know who to give credit too if Floyd KOs Manny.

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        #53
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Who says that we will not be giving anyone any credit. We will know who to give credit too if Floyd KOs Manny.

        That's the same guy who helped Manny get quite a few KOs!

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        • Reloaded
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          #54
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Who says that we will not be giving anyone any credit. We will know who to give credit too if Floyd KOs Manny.
          Pressure is on you like a bad dream lol .

          The Manny fans are scared like rabbits , pitiful fan base of
          children so full of excuses .

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            #55
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            I highlighted De La Hoya moving down, because he was a 35yr. old man, fighting at a weight he hadn't fought at in 7 years, and it's like it's no big deal. On the flip side, Floyd makes a 20 something come down 2lbs, and he's hated for it. Floyd definitely beat the better version of De La Hoya at 154, but he won't get the credit, because he didn't get the KO. Manny got the KO, and the rest is history. This is what I believe that Roger is trying to say.
            Floyd vs Oscar was a split decision. If you look at the replay, Oscar was blocking many of Floyd's shots. What you don't say or don't know is that Oscar was a part time fighter by then and had only 1 fight (less than 6 rounds) in 3 years prior to fighting Floyd yet he was still able to give Floyd a very competitive fight.

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            • ADP02
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              #56
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              That's the same guy who helped Manny get quite a few KOs!
              Thanks for admitting that Floyd left nothing for chance come May 2nd. Floyd got Memo too!!!

              The undetectables baby!





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              Last edited by ADP02; 04-27-2015, 08:02 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Floyd vs Oscar was a split decision. If you look at the replay, Oscar was blocking many of Floyd's shots. What you don't say or don't know is that Oscar was a part time fighter by then and had only 1 fight (less than 6 rounds) in 3 years prior to fighting Floyd yet he was still able to give Floyd a very competitive fight.
                And what you did say (indirectly) was Oscar was even older, and less competitive when Manny fought him. Oscar fought Mayorga one year prior to Floyd, and fought Manny one year after Floyd, but he fought Floyd at 154, which was Oscar's BEST weight. Oscar then fought Manny at 147. Again, he (Oscar) had NOT fought at 147 in 7 years. All the credit went to Manny, and not Floyd because Manny got the KO. That's why Roger wants Floyd to get the KO. Without the KO, some will say Marquez is better than Floyd because he beat Pacquiao in a more impressive fashion.

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                • ADP02
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Pressure is on you like a bad dream lol .

                  The Manny fans are scared like rabbits , pitiful fan base of
                  children so full of excuses .
                  How can there be pressure when we all know that Manny handles pressure like a cool cucumber. That in itself is making Floyd edgy and uncomfortable. He could have pulled those lines to someone like Guerrero and company but he didn't with Manny because Floyd knows better.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Thanks for admitting that Floyd left nothing for chance come May 2nd. Floyd got Memo too!!!

                    The undetectable baby!

                    Floyd is a hypocrite for hiring a cheater like Ariza! Who does that...besides Manny? Oh, I forgot about Maidana. Do your homework, and check Justin Fortune's resume, and what Freddie said about him too.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      And what you did say (indirectly) was Oscar was even older, and less competitive when Manny fought him. Oscar fought Mayorga one year prior to Floyd, and fought Manny one year after Floyd, but he fought Floyd at 154, which was Oscar's BEST weight. Oscar then fought Manny at 147. Again, he (Oscar) had NOT fought at 147 in 7 years. All the credit went to Manny, and not Floyd because Manny got the KO. That's why Roger wants Floyd to get the KO. Without the KO, some will say Marquez is better than Floyd because he beat Pacquiao in a more impressive fashion.
                      Floyd was the favorite in that fight.

                      Manny was a huge underdog. Even the Mayweather's said it wasn't a fight because Manny would get massacred. That is why Manny got more credit. Floyd was supposed to win and on the scorecard barely won. Manny on the other hand did to Oscar what people were expecting Oscar to do to Manny.

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