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  • jjsmyth87
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    #41
    Floyd is heavily favored so he is expected to be dominant, not the other way around. What happens if pacquiao dominates mayweather? Floyds team will come up with every excuse in the book I can guarantee it. Manny will show may 2nd he is the superior fighter and will dominate mayweather

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      #42
      Originally posted by Dr Rumack
      To be honest, for Floyd to get full credit for the win, he would have to go back in time to 2010 and win the fight then.
      This is another sad truth. Floyd is held in public contempt for not fighting Manny in 2010. How ironic that the guy who refused to take blood tests (unless he had a 24-day cut off) is the hero, but the guy who insisted on testing is the goat. What other sport do we cheer for the guy who refused to take a random drug testing? Manny is unscathed by his actions in the past. Barry Bonds can never get an endorsement for Foot Locker today, but Manny can, and neither have had a positive drug test. Why is that?

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        #43
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        The differences in the 2 fights against Oscar, by Floyd and Manny, speak volumes about how the public views the two men. Floyd beat Oscar at 154, and gets little credit. Floyd even gets venom for making Canelo (a twenty-something year old man) come down from 154 to 152. However Manny fought a very different Oscar (35 year old man) than Floyd did:

        August 28, 2008:

        The fight will take place at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds, meaning Pacquiao (47-3-2, 35 KOs), a five-division champion who holds a 135-pound lightweight belt, will move up two weight classes. De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KOs), a six-division champion, will come down to 147, a weight he has not fought at since 2001. De La Hoya, primarily a 154-pound junior middleweight in recent years, came down to 150 for his May points victory against Steve Forbes.



        Why the different responses? Because Floyd is not well liked, and Manny is a hero. This is why Roger wants that KO!
        Why did you highlight de la Hoya moving down a weight class but not pacquiao moving up 2 weight classes? De la Hoya was favored 8 to one and was expected to kill pacquiao but got the beating of a lifetime. Mayweather is best at 154 and was favored against de la Hoya and almost lost. Pacquiaos win over Hoya was 1000 times more impressive than floyds due to all those factors

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          #44
          Originally posted by jjsmyth87
          Floyd is heavily favored so he is expected to be dominant, not the other way around. What happens if pacquiao dominates mayweather? Floyds team will come up with every excuse in the book I can guarantee it. Manny will show may 2nd he is the superior fighter and will dominate mayweather
          Floyd will make it look like Manny should not be in the ring with him , Manny wont be able to do anything accept get hit .

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            #45
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            This is another sad truth. Floyd is held in public contempt for not fighting Manny in 2010. How ironic that the guy who refused to take blood tests (unless he had a 24-day cut off) is the hero, but the guy who insisted on testing is the goat. What other sport do we cheer for the guy who refused to take a random drug testing? Manny is unscathed by his actions in the past. Barry Bonds can never get an endorsement for Foot Locker today, but Manny can, and neither have had a positive drug test. Why is that?
            Manny had agreed to complete random testing as long ago as after the clottey fight. He also agreed to a 14 day cutoff with a test right after as well as unlimited urine testing as long ago as before the clottey fight. Victor Conte admitted to supplying Barry bonds steroids, nobody has ever admitted to seeing or giving Manny steroids. That's a huge difference. Manny has also passed every single test he's ever taken, while bonds used hgh which the mlb didn't even test for. Again that's a huge difference. If Floyds team wouldn't have falsely accused him because they were jealous, this wouldn't even be a discussion right now

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              #46
              Originally posted by jjsmyth87
              Why did you highlight de la Hoya moving down a weight class but not pacquiao moving up 2 weight classes? De la Hoya was favored 8 to one and was expected to kill pacquiao but got the beating of a lifetime. Mayweather is best at 154 and was favored against de la Hoya and almost lost. Pacquiaos win over Hoya was 1000 times more impressive than floyds due to all those factors
              A little exercise for you look at both fights but pay no attention to Manny or Floyd just look at everything Oscar does under a microscope , look closely at the pace , intensity , snap on punches , resistance , strength .

              The 2 Oscars are a fcking world apart , and your oblivious to it .

              May 2nd you going to see Floyd beat Manny up like he should not be in the ring with him .

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                #47
                There is way more evidence of Floyd using peds than Manny. Manny would be crucified right now if he had memo on his team. Remember memos claim to fame was helping Olympic athletes pass USADA testing for years all while doping. He admitted to it and even ratted out the athletes. I dont get why Ariza would even be allowed to co sult with memo given that memo made his whole career based off of cheating the usada with undetectable peds that he made. Now Floyd gets to use usada and memo with no consequences? Hes really taking this A side thing too far, hes literally found a way to.use peds for this fight and get a pass from the media just because he claimed to be q crusader for a clean sport. Hes also been convicted 5 times of domestic a use and got a free pass every time whole ray rice was suspended for a whole year and cut by the ravens. On may 2nd its time for Manny to destroy floyds legacy in front of the world I cant wait

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jjsmyth87
                  There is way more evidence of Floyd using peds than Manny. Manny would be crucified right now if he had memo on his team. Remember memos claim to fame was helping Olympic athletes pass USADA testing for years all while doping. He admitted to it and even ratted out the athletes. I dont get why Ariza would even be allowed to co sult with memo given that memo made his whole career based off of cheating the usada with undetectable peds that he made. Now Floyd gets to use usada and memo with no consequences? Hes really taking this A side thing too far, hes literally found a way to.use peds for this fight and get a pass from the media just because he claimed to be q crusader for a clean sport. Hes also been convicted 5 times of domestic a use and got a free pass every time whole ray rice was suspended for a whole year and cut by the ravens. On may 2nd its time for Manny to destroy floyds legacy in front of the world I cant wait

                  100% in agreement. If Manny had the ped dealer in his camp, the media would be all over him and the Froid groupies would never shut up. Since he is with Mayflower, these clowns turn a blind eye. I cant wait for saturday night. No more ducking, no more pu.ssy excuses.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jjsmyth87
                    Why did you highlight de la Hoya moving down a weight class but not pacquiao moving up 2 weight classes? De la Hoya was favored 8 to one and was expected to kill pacquiao but got the beating of a lifetime. Mayweather is best at 154 and was favored against de la Hoya and almost lost. Pacquiaos win over Hoya was 1000 times more impressive than floyds due to all those factors
                    I highlighted De La Hoya moving down, because he was a 35yr. old man, fighting at a weight he hadn't fought at in 7 years, and it's like it's no big deal. On the flip side, Floyd makes a 20 something come down 2lbs, and he's hated for it. Floyd definitely beat the better version of De La Hoya at 154, but he won't get the credit, because he didn't get the KO. Manny got the KO, and the rest is history. This is what I believe that Roger is trying to say.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by brown_knight06
                      100% in agreement. If Manny had the ped dealer in his camp, the media would be all over him and the Froid groupies would never shut up. Since he is with Mayflower, these clowns turn a blind eye. I cant wait for saturday night. No more ducking, no more pu.ssy excuses.
                      Yup the hard truth.

                      whether they like to hear it or not, Hiring Memo heredia taints this fight. Not Pac's fault. It's Floyd's own doing like he's own doing for choosing the easy rode to the top ducking real threats along the way.

                      That is not the atg way.

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