List of fighters Memo Heredia works with

[lacson]

None of that says he "created" anything. Anyone can go out and get drugs and sell them. Doesn't make them a world class chemist.

His father was a well known chemist and he took it up, he was very good at it.

[mathed]

Juan Manuel Marquez
Jean Pascal
Badou Jack
Ray Beltran
Wilfredo Vasquez Jr
Paulie Malignaggi
Jesse Vargas
Thomas Dulorme
Marvin Sonsona
Brandon Rios
Jorge Arce
Jhonny Gonzalez

Name some more

Floyd Mayweather jr.

They are all cheaters imo.

[mathed]

None of that says he "created" anything. Anyone can go out and get drugs and sell them. Doesn't make them a world class chemist.

Man, he actually bragged about creating over 20 UNDETECTABLE PED's and he even injected himself with one of the drugs that he created. The guy is a world class chemical expert, with years of experience in beating drug testing protocols. If you work with him, you are automatically dirty in my mind.

[radioraheem]

The guy already admitted, how else are you going to get proof? You want him to make it for you?

He just wants more than his words, because anyone can brag and boast and exaggerate what they allegedly did. Doesn't mean it's quite true. So him wanting proof is valid. He just should do the research himself though once it comes to that point.

[radioraheem]

Man, he actually bragged about creating over 20 UNDETECTABLE PED's and he even injected himself with one of the drugs that he created. The guy is a world class chemical expert, with years of experience in beating drug testing protocols. If you work with him, you are automatically dirty in my mind.

He injected himself with a street drug, not a custom undetectable drug.

[Rath]

Again, there is a list of substances WADA demands that every anti-doping organisation around the world test for. Every single sample has to undergo tests for the same list of substances.

It's not that USADA or VADA chooses what substances to test for per sample. No way! They test for the exact same huge list of substances for every single sample. And that is why there is no difference between USADA and VADA other than the frequency in which they take samples and the cost. USADA generally takes more samples, which drives up the cost. VADA takes less, which drives down the cost and makes them more affordable for fighters with small pockets.

give me a link that says USADA and VADA are doing identical test, that is all i am saying

off topic

USADA generally takes more samples, which drives up the cost

is this the reason why USADA took 6 tests on Pac and 4 vials of blood samples while Floyd has nothing to show of?

[mathed]

He injected himself with a street drug, not a custom undetectable drug.

Semantics.........the guy is a PED expert and there is no denying that. There is no sugar coating what he brings to the table and why people really hire him.

[megadeth]

He was doing far more than that. It was advanced stuff for that time period. I'm not going to do the homework for you. If you look back enough and do the research, you'll eventually come to find out that he did more than just 'supply.'

I don't need you to do research for me. I read on it years ago and nothing that I saw was unknown to many others. Undetectable doesn't mean others don't know about it, it just means they weren't able to test for it. Hell I know the guy that created the real "undetectable" drugs personally. I have articles that were written from the 1990's about using EPO in sports.

[megadeth]

His father was a well known chemist and he took it up, he was very good at it.

Maybe he is. But if he is such a prolific creator of PED's, why did none of them show up in the Balco Scandal? That's all I'm asking.

[radioraheem]

give me a link that says USADA and VADA are doing identical test, that is all i am saying

off topic

USADA generally takes more samples, which drives up the cost

is this the reason why USADA took 6 tests on Pac and 4 vials of blood samples while Floyd has nothing to show of?

Again, they both follow the WADA guidelines. Meaning they test for the same list of substances for every single sample. There are only two labs in the entire country that can perform such a crazy test, and that's UCLA and another in Utah.

No one really knows how many tests Pacquaio has taken, but I'm pretty sure it's more than 6. More like a dozen. And Mayweather has taken tests too. USADA will likely publish the results after the fight. But of course, conspiracy theorists like you really believe Floyd took no tests and only Pacquaio took a test. You probably was amongst the fools who also believed Ariza when he said that VADA took no tests of Pacquaio (and there was no pics or footage) and that only Brandon Rios took tests (who had footage and pics).