Michel doesn't rule out Kovalev fight next year

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
    I've read the article before.

    What does that have to do with Michel not negotiationg?
    Can you answer my question please-Why didn't she check with HBO before going to the WBC?

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    • HeroBando
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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      When Duva pulled out of purse bid, kov wasn't resigned to HBO. So at that point the best possible option was purse bid winner, 50/50.

      Now since she walked away from purse bid and kov resigned, now you want Stevenson to go to HBO for a deal you just acknowledged hasn't been made, because you guess it will be the most lucrative.

      Yeah, that makes sense.
      We don't know when Kovalev signed or had an offer from HBO. Doesn't matter now, the best possible offer is on HBO. Why don't you want Stevenson to take it? His rep and numbers have gone way down since he left HBO.

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      • Mitchell Kane
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        #103
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        When Duva pulled out of purse bid, kov wasn't resigned to HBO.
        Whether he was signed or not, it's likely were having discussions.

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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Can you answer my question please-Why didn't she check with HBO before going to the WBC?
          You know that she didn't?

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            #105
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I suggest you read Rick Reeno's write up about what actually happened. Kov signed with HBo instead of trying to make fight on Showtime.

            making Kov out to be some innocent loyalist is telling.
            I don't know what Rick Reeno article you are referring to there. But I know the fight was already made on HBO and Stevenson ran away from it.

            Are you saying he offered to fight Kovalev on Showtime instead of HBO back then?

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              #106
              Michel will negotiate...
              After he watched Al's extraordinary take off (which included Adonis vs Bika, Quillin vs Lee or Jr vs Fonfara), I suspect that Yvon would look carefully after his fighters...

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #107
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                We don't know when Kovalev signed or had an offer from HBO. Doesn't matter now, the best possible offer is on HBO. Why don't you want Stevenson to take it? His rep and numbers have gone way down since he left HBO.
                Yes we do. Kathy didn't resign until after she withdrew from purse bid. Kov had one more fight on his initial deal.

                you don't know what the best possible offer for Stevenson is as you do not know what HBO is offering since you finally admitted there was no offer made.

                Stop HeroBando.

                Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
                Whether he was signed or not, it's likely were having discussions.
                OK, so why not ask or make a provision for the Stevenson fight given everything Kov said about the fight?

                Katny/Kov really fucked up.

                Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
                You know that she didn't?
                Surprising that she wouldn't. I think she did, HBO said OK, then realized They were going to get outbid.

                Originally posted by kafkod
                I don't know what Rick Reeno article you are referring to there. But I know the fight was already made on HBO and Stevenson ran away from it.

                Are you saying he offered to fight Kovalev on Showtime instead of HBO back then?
                The one he wrote for this site. The fight was NEVER made on HBO. Reeno's article even kills HBO for this.

                You really have to read it.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
                  Knowing someone "can" outbid doesn't mean they are going to.

                  Duva doesn't know if she's bidding against SHO or the PBC.

                  But as of now, there's no evidence this fight will even be on PBC.

                  Michel said:



                  PBC networks aren't actually "putting money behind fights" at the moment, Haymon's investors are.

                  Michel can negotiate, but their side chose to skip that process and head to purse bid.
                  Duva doesnt know who she is bidding against?

                  WTF?

                  Duva knew that GYM "could" outbid her but didnt know if they actually "would" do it?

                  Huh?

                  So your overall assertion is that promoters only go through purse bids when they already know the outcome?

                  Round and round you go on the never ending wheel of excuses.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
                    Theres definitely alot of spin in there.

                    But the problem we have here is that Duva lied just as much if not more with her own press releases, and you endorse every single one of her lies.

                    Just say you dont like Stevenson and leave it at that since your opinion is so biased that its irrelevant.
                    This isn't true. Moreover, my major issue with Stevenson isn't a personal one, it's his poor level of competition. If you go back you'll see he was my pick for FOTY in 2013 and I felt the Kovalev fight was a 50-50 one.

                    Since then he's avoided the three major fighters in the divison while treating us to the likes of Bika and Sukhotsky. He's effectively holding the title hostage at this point, hasn't fought a mandatory since Bellew and no unifications.

                    On Main Events, I was in favor of them letting Kovalev go across networks, but since they turned it down and renewed an exclusive deal with HBO the only way the fight gets made is on HBO, which means the ball is in Stevenson's court.

                    Anyhow, I've pretty much accepted Haymon won't let Stevenson cross networks, and with Michel talking 2016 the fight is dead in the water. It's now up to the WBC to enforce Stevenson's next mandatory Isaac Chilemba.
                    Last edited by Weebler I; 04-24-2015, 01:44 PM.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      This isn't true. Moreover, my major issue with Stevenson isn't a personal one, it's his poor level of competition. If you go back you'll see he was my pick for FOTY in 2013 and I felt the Kovalev fight was a 50-50 one.

                      Since then he's avoided the three major fighters in the divison while treating us to the likes of Bika and Sukhotsky. He's effectively holding the title hostage at this point, hasn't fought a mandatory since Bellew and no unifications.

                      On Main Events, I was in favor of them letting Kovalev go across networks, but since they turned it down and renewed an exclusive deal with HBO the only way the fight gets made is on HBO, which means the ball is in Stevenson's court.

                      Anyhow, I've pretty much accepted Haymon won't let Stevenson cross networks, and with Michel talking 2016 the fight is dead in the water. It's now up to the WBC to enforce Stevenson's next mandatory Isaac Chilemba.
                      In other words:

                      when Stevenson ducked I was pissed and was ok with Kov then going to HBO instead of chasing the fight. Now when kov ducks, Stevenson needs to chase a fight with him. GTFOH!!!

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