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  • #31
    Looking at Jennings vs Perez, I don't even think this lasts 4 rounds. He doesn't have the pace to bother Wlad, and he makes a lot of mistakes.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      clinchko locks their arms up, pushes his opponents head down, and even puts his opponents in a headlock so that they can't throw punches in the clinches. the ref does nothing.
      True. I dont think there's ever been a fighter as afraid of inside fighting as Wlad, but his opponents have to do something to try and counter it.

      The worst thing you can do imo is just accept the clinch (cough*Povetkin*cough). At least if you are trying to work inside it makes it very obvious to the referee and the fans who is the one doing the holding.

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      • #33
        This was from an article Connor Reubusch wrote on how to beat Klitschko:

        3. BEND YOUR KNEES

        This was the biggest mistake Alexander Povetkin made against Klitschko in the champion's last fight, which was widely decried as a boring clinch-fest--which it was. His many, swear-filled demands for aggression aside, Emmanuel Steward sure taught Klitschko how to lay on a shorter man, and he'll do it at the slightest opportunity. The opportunity in question is an opponent who bends forward at the waist and leads with his head, as Povetkin did over, and over, and over again.




        Here, Povetkin makes the same mistake twice in a row, trying to bob under Klitschko's punches but doing so by bending his back, instead of shortening himself at the hips and knees. By bending forward Povetkin does two things: 1) he puts his head right under the armpit of Klitschko, giving the tall man an easy opportunity to tie him up and tire him out; 2) he puts his head over his own left foot, meaning that once Klitschko does put his weight on him, he has no leverage to keep himself upright.
        Fighting in the clinch is just as much about skill and technique as it is on the outside, Wlad has perfected the defensive side of it, his opponents have to learn how to stop him as the refs have made it pretty clear that they wont do jack.

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        • #34
          Klitschko is one of the worst huggers ever, no one can really deny it - I mean it's on live video.

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          • #35
            Wlad would be nothing w/out holding, he's clueless on how to defend on the inside. His fans try to make excuses as to why he does it and act like he is going to do something completely different defensively, when the reality is Wlad just doesn't know how to defend on the inside. You take away his holding, he's going to be SOL.

            His holding is really the primary difference, what took him from getting KTFO by the likes of Sanders, to being on a winning streak, that's a fact lmao.

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            • #36
              **** you should be. We all are.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by valero View Post
                Jennings has to use his foot movement and long jab.

                He is younger, and should be better conditioned if he trained hard.

                Foot movement, lateral, head movement, don't back straight up, don't get trapped on the ropes or in a corner.

                And keep firing, to the body, arms, head, the goal is to out-land Wlad. His only hope of winning is to tire Wlad and outwork him in the end.


                exactly. people make the mistake of coming straight at wladimir and getting all the way inside. i udnerstand that it feels like a safe place if you're ifghting a dude with such a hard jab, but that's when he starts to lean on you.


                the guy who beats klitschko is obviously going to hit him with something big and follow up. you don't need to be all the way inside to do that if you're jennings. his arms are plenty long. he should never come inside of the middle distance unless he knows he can land and get out. you can't get into wladimir's chest. at least, we haven't seen a fighter who can be effective there recently. he cliches too well.

                you don't go all the way inside on wladimir. you don't try and get in his chest and work the body. you don't jab with him on the outside, either. you pick your spots to try and get to the middle distance and nail him on the chin. use your legs to go in and out, and try and land power shots.

                think manny pacquiao. good luck, bryan

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                • #38
                  The illegal clinching tactics are always going to be a concern in a Wlad fight no matter the level of opposition he faces, he was jumping on the backs of an shot blind Brewster and 39 yr old 100-1 underdog Mormeck ffs. His man loving tactics are designed to stall out, wear down, and tire out his opponents without exposing his weaknesses(chin,cardio, lack of infighting skill etc). However, without all the hugging he would be vulnerable to being destroyed in seconds by even very weak opponents like a shot 38yr old neverwas golfer retiree.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
                    Wlad would be nothing w/out holding, he's clueless on how to defend on the inside. His fans try to make excuses as to why he does it and act like he is going to do something completely different defensively, when the reality is Wlad just doesn't know how to defend on the inside. You take away his holding, he's going to be SOL.

                    His holding is really the primary difference, what took him from getting KTFO by the likes of Sanders, to being on a winning streak, that's a fact lmao.
                    you know boxing. wlad has no defense. zero head movement, no ability to bob or weave to avoid punches, can't even lean like vitali. he just stands stiff as a board with his hands stretched out so he can hold whenever someone gets into punching range. cheating does matter. that's why he does it! he was mediocre without cheating and hasn't proved since that he can be great without cheating.
                    Last edited by daggum; 04-23-2015, 05:22 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      you know boxing. wlad has no defense. zero head movement, no ability to bob or weave to avoid punches, can't even lean like vitali. he just stands stiff as a board with his hands stretched out so he can hold whenever someone gets into punching range. cheating does matter. that's why he does it! he was mediocre without cheating and hasn't proved since that he can be great without cheating.
                      It really is absurd. I can't believe no one ever says a word to him about it. It's cheating, no other way around it. Dude ran across the ring and clinched the second the bell rang against Pulev.

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