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  • #51
    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
    Hey he put Tyson on the chart not me
    I was addressing why Tyson had less title defenses than Mayweather.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Luilun View Post
      Let's see if Ali told Foreman you must wear Pillow gloves or no fight If Ali retired While Foreman Fraizer Norton etc beat the crap out of each other than hand pick the most shop worn if Ali hired shady steriod condtioning coaches if Ali only fought slow Latin fighters if Ali taunted Liston only to fight him after he's knock out by someone do you think people would call him the greatest ?
      floyd is one of the greatest boxers the sport has ever seen

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      • #53
        Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
        Kid Gavilan was Afro-Cuban.
        And Henry Armstrong was black also, but he was nowhere near prime.

        So one guy.


        Williams and Burley were awesome prime fighters that Robinson wanted nothing to do with. Cocoa Kid was pretty good.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
          I was addressing why Tyson had less title defenses than Mayweather.
          whats tysons greatest win in your opinion

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          • #55
            Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
            This chart actually puts Floyd in a great light and shows how much of an ATG he really is
            Assuming Floyd beats Manny, Floyd is a top 10 ATG and anyone who would deny him that are going to be the most die hard haters. My problem with Floyd is he does'nt take big risks with his opponent selection. Manny is by far the most dangerous opponent Floyd has fought since Castillo 13 years ago. Who he has fought versus who he could of fought is always going to be a question mark on his career for me.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by DreamerUSA View Post
              Assuming Floyd beats Manny, Floyd is a top 10 ATG and anyone who would deny him that are going to be the most die hard haters. My problem with Floyd is he does'nt take big risks with his opponent selection. Manny is by far the most dangerous opponent Floyd has fought since Castillo 13 years ago. Who he has fought versus who he could of fought is always going to be a question mark on his career for me.
              which fighters didnt he fight that make u question his career not trying to argue would just like to know

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              • #57
                Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
                So everybody has heard by now how Mayweather feels about himself. I would expect nothing less from a fighter like him. But even so, I was bored and decided to compile stats from Boxrec, and came up with a graph based on 10 major stats that I personally feel are the most important when comparing fighters. All are not here obviously, but I took 5 of the most famous boxers who are usually brought into any pound-for-pound conversations and compared them. In the end, my list ended up like this and Mayweather is not number 1. Nobody needs to get butthurt. Just laying out the stats.

                1.) Ali
                2.) Joe Louis
                3.) Sugar Ray Robinson
                4.) Floyd Mayweather
                5.) Mike Tyson
                6.) Rocky Marciano

                Take a look for yourself. If you can appreciate this chart, fell free to share it. Thanks
                Popularity is not a skill though!

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
                  So everybody has heard by now how Mayweather feels about himself. I would expect nothing less from a fighter like him. But even so, I was bored and decided to compile stats from Boxrec, and came up with a graph based on 10 major stats that I personally feel are the most important when comparing fighters. All are not here obviously, but I took 5 of the most famous boxers who are usually brought into any pound-for-pound conversations and compared them. In the end, my list ended up like this and Mayweather is not number 1. Nobody needs to get butthurt. Just laying out the stats.

                  1.) Ali
                  2.) Joe Louis
                  3.) Sugar Ray Robinson
                  4.) Floyd Mayweather
                  5.) Mike Tyson
                  6.) Rocky Marciano

                  Take a look for yourself. If you can appreciate this chart, fell free to share it. Thanks
                  I was going to make a sarcastic comment about your post, but I decided not to even bother. This whole "who is the greatest" argument is ridiculous. The greatest fighter is whoever you want it to be. You cannot compare someone from 100 years ago or even 50 years ago to a fighter of this era. So, please stop these nonsense posts.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
                    No one is taking stock in anything. I understand his opinion. I am just putting out the stats.
                    I appreciated the stats. I think it's important to put the stats out there--for perspective. Also, it sorta keeps fan boys in check. Floyd's great but he wouldn't even crack my top ten.

                    Again, thanks for the stats

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                    • #60
                      If anything your graphs make a stronger case for him (certainly stronger than I would have guessed). I'd imagine there was another fighter on these graphs but you didn't like seeing his metrics next to the others and conveniently left him off.

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