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Stats don't lie. Mayweather is not better than Ali or Sugar Ray.

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
    You've got to take into account there being 4 major titles in each division now and twice as many divisions.
    Tyson was around with multiple belts and Floyd up until recently only defended the WBC belt,so he was defending 1 belt

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Pain~Lucy View Post
      Larry getting emotional here lol also saying who cares, yet he's annoyed what the op posted LOL
      No im debating
      Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
      I don't see how that's possible when he is outnumbered in almost every category except win percentage. And his career is not over.
      Not really,of course Robinson and Ali had more fights,but look at champions fought and defenses and winning percentages..he has a good case

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      • #23
        Mayweather thinks he's the best boxer ever and Kanye West thinks he's the best thing to music and fashion ever. Both are delusional idiots that people laugh at when they say such things, who cares.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
          In my opinion, a boxers career counts from when he first puts the gloves on. Just my opinion.
          i respect that. i just feel that amstats isn't really a factor when we talk of greatness in professional boxing. marciano isn't rated very highly because of his almost non-existent amateur career, but he is.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
            No im debating


            Not really,of course Robinson and Ali had more fights,but look at champions fought and defenses and winning percentages..he has a good case
            Yeah, he does. But he seemed to focus more on Ali. And Ali clearly is a better pound-for-pound fighter.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Twako View Post
              i respect that. i just feel that amstats isn't really a factor when we talk of greatness in professional boxing. marciano isn't rated very highly because of his almost non-existent amateur career, but he is.
              Also a good point. Which is why I also included amateur win percentage to try to balance it out. Rocky went 9-4 in his amateur fights. He wasn't invincible his entire career. That is why I included those stats.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                Mayweather thinks he's the best boxer ever and Kanye West thinks he's the best thing to music and fashion ever. Both are delusional idiots that people laugh at when they say such things, who cares.
                That's a defense mechanism for those that do not like either, are threatened by their greatness and do not want to acknowledge it. It's the same way diehard Jordan fans got when Kobe got his 5th ring.

                It's also the way Floyd and some of his fans reacted when people said Manny was better than him.

                I don't understand why people react this way. If you don't feel he is, ok.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by tmac20031 View Post
                  Yeah, he does. But he seemed to focus more on Ali. And Ali clearly is a better pound-for-pound fighter.
                  He said he was better then them all not just Ali...but yes Ali had the better resume and one of the best resume's of all time in the Golden era of heavyweights.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    That's a defense mechanism for those that do not like either, are threatened by their greatness and do not want to acknowledge it. It's the same way diehard Jordan fans got when Kobe got his 5th ring.

                    It's also the way Floyd and some of his fans reacted when people said Manny was better than him.

                    I don't understand why people react this way. If you don't feel he is, ok.
                    No need to dismiss it. Pound-for-pound rating were created for a reason. It's part of the fun. Boxers want to be legends, which is partly why they do it eventually. Whats wrong with pointing out the stats? That's all we have really, and they do a pretty good job.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                      Its amazing out of over 200 fights Floyd has more title defenses then Robinson and more then Tyson and Marciano and they stayed in 1 division
                      Probably because SRR had a lot of fights before becoming champ.

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