Stats don't lie. Mayweather is not better than Ali or Sugar Ray.

[Larry the boss]

You've got to take into account there being 4 major titles in each division now and twice as many divisions.

Tyson was around with multiple belts and Floyd up until recently only defended the WBC belt,so he was defending 1 belt

[Larry the boss]

Larry getting emotional here lol also saying who cares, yet he's annoyed what the op posted LOL

No im debating

I don't see how that's possible when he is outnumbered in almost every category except win percentage. And his career is not over.

Not really,of course Robinson and Ali had more fights,but look at champions fought and defenses and winning percentages..he has a good case

[Beater_of_ass]

Mayweather thinks he's the best boxer ever and Kanye West thinks he's the best thing to music and fashion ever. Both are delusional idiots that people laugh at when they say such things, who cares.

[Twako]

In my opinion, a boxers career counts from when he first puts the gloves on. Just my opinion.

i respect that. i just feel that amstats isn't really a factor when we talk of greatness in professional boxing. marciano isn't rated very highly because of his almost non-existent amateur career, but he is.

[tmac20031]

No im debating


Not really,of course Robinson and Ali had more fights,but look at champions fought and defenses and winning percentages..he has a good case

Yeah, he does. But he seemed to focus more on Ali. And Ali clearly is a better pound-for-pound fighter.

[tmac20031]

i respect that. i just feel that amstats isn't really a factor when we talk of greatness in professional boxing. marciano isn't rated very highly because of his almost non-existent amateur career, but he is.

Also a good point. Which is why I also included amateur win percentage to try to balance it out. Rocky went 9-4 in his amateur fights. He wasn't invincible his entire career. That is why I included those stats.

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather thinks he's the best boxer ever and Kanye West thinks he's the best thing to music and fashion ever. Both are delusional idiots that people laugh at when they say such things, who cares.

That's a defense mechanism for those that do not like either, are threatened by their greatness and do not want to acknowledge it. It's the same way diehard Jordan fans got when Kobe got his 5th ring.

It's also the way Floyd and some of his fans reacted when people said Manny was better than him.

I don't understand why people react this way. If you don't feel he is, ok.

[Larry the boss]

Yeah, he does. But he seemed to focus more on Ali. And Ali clearly is a better pound-for-pound fighter.

He said he was better then them all not just Ali...but yes Ali had the better resume and one of the best resume's of all time in the Golden era of heavyweights.

[tmac20031]

That's a defense mechanism for those that do not like either, are threatened by their greatness and do not want to acknowledge it. It's the same way diehard Jordan fans got when Kobe got his 5th ring.

It's also the way Floyd and some of his fans reacted when people said Manny was better than him.

I don't understand why people react this way. If you don't feel he is, ok.

No need to dismiss it. Pound-for-pound rating were created for a reason. It's part of the fun. Boxers want to be legends, which is partly why they do it eventually. Whats wrong with pointing out the stats? That's all we have really, and they do a pretty good job.

[hugh grant]

Its amazing out of over 200 fights Floyd has more title defenses then Robinson and more then Tyson and Marciano and they stayed in 1 division

Probably because SRR had a lot of fights before becoming champ.