What is your understanding of Ring Generalship?

[SplitSecond]

i could care less if you've got super talent and athleticism and are named sugar ali whitaker duran with all the ability in the world to make all the cute moves and have prodvodnikov fighting off the backfoot looking like a bambi on scates because of his lack of balance, if he's landing more and better quality shots than you, i give him the round

[_original_]

Very good thread. I agree with the consensus definition that ring generalship is awarded to the fighter who is controlling the pace and tempo of the fight to his liking. Basically, which fighter is making the other fight his fight. However, as you pointed out, in close rounds with little action and when opposite styles contrast, ring generalship can become skewed to personal preference. In the case of Peterson-Garcia, early rounds speaking of course, I felt that Peterson was being the ring general because he was making Danny fight his fight. Garcia had no answer for his movement and could or would not reclaim ring generalship as other fighters might do in that scenario; i.e. cut off the ring, pump out a jab, ect. So, while Peterson did do some unnecessary movement, and possibly did it to avoid Garcia's attack, he was dictating the pace in those rounds and in control. I just can't award a guy a close round with little action for his ineffective aggression and displaying little creativity to overcome this issue. On the other hand, I can see the point of view that others might have and say they can't award rounds to a guy using too much movement and neglecting his own offense. As I stated, it sometimes comes down to individualistic preference in these type of rounds.

[TheSwiftAsSa5in]

Hit and not get hit.

[Da Machine]

Clean punching should be the majority of it all, because the rest just hinges off whether your landing clean crisp shots. Thats basically what I look for. Any fast foot speed guy can make it a run fest and supposedly have the fight where he wants, but if he's not doing anything with it, whats the point.

[Da Machine]

i could care less if you've got super talent and athleticism and are named sugar ali whitaker duran with all the ability in the world to make all the cute moves and have prodvodnikov fighting off the backfoot looking like a bambi on scates because of his lack of balance, if he's landing more and better quality shots than you, i give him the round

This..................

[-PBP-]

Ring Generalship is when your favorite fighter lands no meaningful punches but you want to award him a round.

[SplitSecond]

Ring Generalship is when your favorite fighter lands no meaningful punches but you want to award him a round.

"but look at all the dancing and showboating, he's frustrating his opponent"

[Beater_of_ass]

Ring Generalship is when your favorite fighter lands no meaningful punches but you want to award him a round.

So you had Peterson winning the first 6 rounds then?

[_original_]

Clean punching should be the majority of it all, because the rest just hinges off whether your landing clean crisp shots. Thats basically what I look for. Any fast foot speed guy can make it a run fest and supposedly have the fight where he wants, but if he's not doing anything with it, whats the point.

Don't you feel this is just an oversimplification? Ring generalship is much more complex than that. For example, you might have a guy landing more pitty patties with little pop, and the other fighter landing a few heavy, thudding body and head shots. Then it becomes an argument of quality vs. quantity. Volume vs. effective punches. Furthermore, we then have to question how one can truly gauge the punches, we're not the ones feeling them so it's hard to actually assess the quality of each punch connected.

[-PBP-]

So you had Peterson winning the first 6 rounds then?

No. Just because I'm black doesn't mean I scored the fight for Peterson.