What is your understanding of Ring Generalship?

[Boxfan83]

I guess ring generalship can be in the eye of the beholder and considering what style (whoever is judging) favors, that can determine the outcome. But lets take a look at the fight this past weekend between Peterson & Garcia & a match this fight has been compared to (Lara vs Alvarez). In both fights, there was a big clash of styles. We knew this going into Lara vs Alvarez but I think Sugar Lamont Peterson surprised us all.

When I look at both of those fights I try to look at who was the ring general which to me means who controled the tempo/action/area & why. When you look at both fights I mentioned, you had one fighter using lateral movement, & sure it looks nice but I think what people need to look at is why they are using lateral movement, is it to set up offense or is it because they were hurt or bothered by a punch? If they are using lateral movement effectively to set up punches (like Keith Thurman) than they are definitely the ring general but if they are avoiding engagement because they were bothered by a punch or scared than the aggressor should become the ring general hence making them the winner of the round.

When it came down to it in Garcia vs Peterson, it was obvious Peterson was weary of Garcias power and used lateral movement to avoid a fight which made his offensive output very low giving away crucial rounds. With Canelo vs Lara, there were rds where Lara used lateral movement to set up his offense, than there were times he used it because he was clearly bothered making the ring general ship a game of tug a war...

& just in case you are wondering, I scored Garcia vs Peterson 7-5 Garcia & Lara vs Alvarez 6-6 (even after watching it 3x's). Its alot easier scoring fights when its between fighters you dont care for lol

[Weebler I]

Three ringside judges score bouts based on four factors:

Clean punching: “Clean” punches are punches that land on the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.

Effective aggressiveness: A boxer demonstrates this trait when he consistently and successfully moves forward in a controlled manner.

Ring generalship: The judges favor the fighter who controls the pace and style of the bout.

Defense: Boxers that skillfully incorporate defensive maneuvers receive credit in this area.

The only thing that should count is clean punches landed the rest is too subjective.

[Spray_resistant]

Its a controlling of the pace or tempo of the action to favor your gameplan and hinder what your opponent is doing.

[Spray_resistant]

Three ringside judges score bouts based on four factors:




The only thing that should count is clean punches landed the rest is too subjective.

When you have rds with little to no punches being landed you are forced to go to other criteria but most people just make up their own and say "but he is coming forward doe"

[Beater_of_ass]

Floyd is a ring general when he fought Canelo, Lara ran.

GGG cut off the ring against Murray, Garcia followed around Peterson.

If you don't see the difference I can't explain it to you. Also, what Peterson did against Danny wasn't ring generalship, same as Lara versus Canelo. When you land like 3 punches a round, literally, just because you're not getting hit doesn't mean you're winning or being a ring general. A lot of people need to understand just because a guy can't hit you, doesn't mean you're winning a fight.

[Weebler I]

When you have rds with little to no punches being landed you are forced to go to other criteria but most people just make up their own and say "but he is coming forward doe"

I say just score it even.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Movement might be the most overrated trait in boxing. All that movement don't mean anything if you can't land any punches. Now if you can move and land then you are dangerous. There are few fighters out there who are actually great at both.

[bojangles1987]

Its a controlling of the pace or tempo of the action to favor your gameplan and hinder what your opponent is doing.

Textbook...

[Tom Cruise]

***355;

Very subjective term.

I take it to mean who is controlling the pace and 'location' of the fight. So for example if Rigo is fighting Santa Cruz then one wants a slow pace fight fought on the outside, and one wanta a fast pace on the inside. Whoever forces their opponent to fight their fight is being the ring general.

I never score it over clean effective punching though. Which is why in the Peterson Garcia fight, even though Peterson was controlling the pace and location of the fight, i still gace Garcia the early rounds because i felt his punching was slightly more effective

[Boxfan83]

Movement might be the most overrated trait in boxing. All that movement don't mean anything if you can't land any punches. Now if you can move and land then you are dangerous. There are few fighters out there who are actually great at both.

I agree 100%, Im not a pro boxer but if I practiced lateral movement day and night for an entire training camp, Id be pretty hard to hit too! but if thats all I have than on what basis do I have for winning? Just because I can move side to side? I agree movement is overrated to an extent especially with guys like Lara & Alexander. Now guys like Thurman & Lomanchecko move laterally into offense and make it look good.