Cotto-Geale News: Key Negotiation Point Is Cotto Wants A Catchweight

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  • Contra
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    #71
    Originally posted by BlakBread904
    Is a true mw someone who weighs 160 (or within limits) on fight night, or someone who squeezed down to 160 at the weigh in and rehydrates up to 170 on fight night? the rules of boxing allow for both...
    Under the current rules, a fighter has to weigh 160 or below at the weigh-in. That is a true MW in this day and age.

    Tbh, I would like to see same day weigh-ins reinstated, but that's another discussion. The issue here is that the lineal and WBC MW champ wants to defend his title at a weight less than 160, which shouldn't be allowed. If he wants a rehydration clause, so be it. I'm sure Geale wouldn't mind, as long as it's reasonable. A catchweight is usually used for two guys in different weight classes, but no matter how hard Cotto fans try to spin it, he's a MW. The lineal middleweight champion of the world, to be exact. And if he doesn't like the responsibility of having the title, all he has to do is go and see Genna, pull a Rubio early in the fight, and he's free to go back to 154 and fight whoever he wants. Until then, he's a MW and he must defend his title at 160 lbs.

    No boxer is bigger than the sport itself.
    Last edited by Contra; 04-13-2015, 12:57 PM.

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    • ahferriz
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      #72
      No, BlakBread904 its not aimed at you, and you are correct stating "little is left up to negotiation in a NFL football game." and that's what I think boxing should aim as a sport: less things that affect the outcome should be let open to negotiation.

      If you add weights limits, ring sizes, gloves, venues and many other things then you can balance very effectively a fight to one side, so something has to be done to set some bounds and stop some fighters from abusing.

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        #73
        Originally posted by ahferriz
        If you add weights limits, ring sizes, gloves, venues and many other things then you can balance very effectively a fight to one side, so something has to be done to set some bounds and stop some fighters from abusing.

        And the A-side can perpetually stay the A-side because he gets to call the shots in the negotiations and has every advantage he wants in every fight.

        Seems unfair, but c'est la vie, right?

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        • icha
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Be honest-Cotto would have fought once already except HBO cancelled the proposed December fight because they had no money. Canelo quickly signed the Kirkland fight once May 2 was not going to happen for the Cotto fight.
          cotto was a free agent with no ties to any network, if hbo cant do it go to sho , espn, fox, unimas...

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            #75
            Originally posted by icha
            cotto was a free agent with no ties to any network, if hbo cant do it go to sho , espn, fox, unimas...
            He was with Top Rank, maybe that was the reason he left, because they only wanted to be on HBO. Cotto just tried shopping around with Showtime when he signed with RocNation.

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              #76
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              Pacquiao and Algieri both agreed to the catchweight because Algieri was moving up. Even so I don't think it's cool and never said so. If Algieri wanted to fight at 147 then Pacquiao should have fought him at that weight. Geale is a big middleweight and all he is asking for is to be allowed tg weigh 160 at the weigh in. For Cotto to make him weigh even one pound less, THAT IS NOT COOL.
              moving up? wasn't algieri gonna fight for that vacant wbo super lightweight belt?

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              • Humean
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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Be honest-Cotto would have fought once already except HBO cancelled the proposed December fight because they had no money. Canelo quickly signed the Kirkland fight once May 2 was not going to happen for the Cotto fight.
                What are you basing that claim on?

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                  #78
                  "Cotto doesn't fight at catchweights when the Lineage is on the line"

                  He's currently fought for the Lineage once, at a catchweight.

                  Now the second one, he's trying to get at a catchweight.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    "Cotto doesn't fight at catchweights when the Lineage is on the line"

                    He's currently fought for the Lineage once, at a catchweight.

                    Now the second one, he's trying to get at a catchweight.
                    Sergio fought for it at a CW twice as well... Cotto even won the title at a higher weight than what Sergio won it at. Why are you hating?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Humean
                      What are you basing that claim on?
                      It's based on reality of the situation, Canelo/Clottey used up the last of the budget, no one actually expected Canelo to make up an injury to not fight Clottey though.

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