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Cotto-Geale News: Key Negotiation Point Is Cotto Wants A Catchweight

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  • #61
    Green K for jorgepichardojr.

    i have no issue with Cotto/Geale at a catchweight. Middleweight is from 154.01lb-160.0lb. In the spirit of fair play, one would hope that the catchweight is closer to 160 than to 154. but at days end, 160lb is the upper limit of the middleweight class.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
      He's taking an optional defense a whole year after his last fight...when he did not suffer any injuries. There is a lot wrong with that.
      Not when you plan to fight in December and HBO says they have no money left...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by PK3434 View Post
        He's taking an optional defense a whole year after his last fight...when he did not suffer any injuries. There is a lot wrong with that.
        Be honest-Cotto would have fought once already except HBO cancelled the proposed December fight because they had no money. Canelo quickly signed the Kirkland fight once May 2 was not going to happen for the Cotto fight.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
          How come it's cool for pacman to fight under the welterweight limit for the title?
          Pacquiao and Algieri both agreed to the catchweight because Algieri was moving up. Even so I don't think it's cool and never said so. If Algieri wanted to fight at 147 then Pacquiao should have fought him at that weight. Geale is a big middleweight and all he is asking for is to be allowed tg weigh 160 at the weigh in. For Cotto to make him weigh even one pound less, THAT IS NOT COOL.

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          • #65
            I'm a boxing fan, not a boxer fan, so catch weights are bull. As BlakBread904 said: "Middleweight is from 154.01lb-160.0lb" then for a Middleweight fight you can weight anywhere between these values, OK, but limiting your opponent not to weight inside this limit is crap, that shouldn't be allowed. Why? because boxing is a sport, it has it's rules and if you want to play you have to stick to these rules, and if the sport of boxing wants to be respected then it has to follow the rules. Imagine if Pittsburgh Steelers made their opponents play in a 50 yards local vs. 40 yards visitor field because "Yo dawg, I've won more super bowls than anybody, Im the A side dawg" plain ****** right?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BlakBread904 View Post
              Green K for jorgepichardojr.

              i have no issue with Cotto/Geale at a catchweight. Middleweight is from 154.01lb-160.0lb. In the spirit of fair play, one would hope that the catchweight is closer to 160 than to 154. but at days end, 160lb is the upper limit of the middleweight class.
              Thanks

              I agree and Suspect that the weight will be 158-159. Cotto has emmense pride and doesn't wanted the fight to look gimped. It's fair. There is a lot talk that cotto is a small mw but the reality cotto will likely be a true mw becuSe he will walk into the ring at or about 160. Geale will likely still walk in at Lower 170s. So who is the true mw?

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              • #67
                These "A side" ashls want to have all the advantages with the minimum risks. Strip that fckr already. Then he can fight whoever he wants at whatever weight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ahferriz View Post
                  I'm a boxing fan, not a boxer fan, so catch weights are bull. As BlakBread904 said: "Middleweight is from 154.01lb-160.0lb" then for a Middleweight fight you can weight anywhere between these values, OK, but limiting your opponent not to weight inside this limit is crap, that shouldn't be allowed. Why? because boxing is a sport, it has it's rules and if you want to play you have to stick to these rules, and if the sport of boxing wants to be respected then it has to follow the rules. Imagine if Pittsburgh Steelers made their opponents play in a 50 yards local vs. 40 yards visitor field because "Yo dawg, I've won more super bowls than anybody, Im the A side dawg" plain ****** right?
                  I don't know who your "I'm a boxing fan not a boxer fan" comment is aimed at, but it's not for me. I have no dog in this fight. Catchweights are a part of boxing, merely another issue to be settled at the negotiation table. Also, your analogy is crap, because little is left up to negotiation in a NFL football game. The rules in boxing, are negotiable as well (to a point), i will address that shortly...

                  Originally posted by jorgepichardojr View Post
                  Thanks

                  I agree and Suspect that the weight will be 158-159. Cotto has emmense pride and doesn't wanted the fight to look gimped. It's fair. There is a lot talk that cotto is a small mw but the reality cotto will likely be a true mw becuSe he will walk into the ring at or about 160. Geale will likely still walk in at Lower 170s. So who is the true mw?
                  This. A lot of people seem to forget that on fight night, nearly every boxer weighs more than the stated limit of their weight class. The "issue" of catchweights are really overblown. Every so often we see egregious examples (Floyd/Canelo @ cw) leading to wide disparity in weights on fight night. but that just tells you who the cw is really hurting. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that Canelo should be fighting at 160 or even 168.

                  Is a true mw someone who weighs 160 (or within limits) on fight night, or someone who squeezed down to 160 at the weigh in and rehydrates up to 170 on fight night? the rules of boxing allow for both...

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                  • #69
                    The ONLY reason why I don't have a problem with catchweights in some instances is because the guy who the catchweight is being imposed on will not be fighting within his weight limit come fight time. I have no problem with CW's when its being used to even the playing field rather than to take advantage of an opponent.

                    If its going to kill a fighter to come in a lb or 2 under the limit, then he's fighting in the wrong weight class.

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                    • #70
                      Oh for **** sake

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