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  • Spacey1991
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    #41
    The current scoring system is absolutely fine providing we have competent judges, as long as the judges do their jobs properly there will rarely be any complaints.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #42
      Originally posted by Spacey1991
      The current scoring system is absolutely fine providing we have competent judges, as long as the judges do their jobs properly there will rarely be any complaints.
      It really is not.

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      • B-Bomber
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Once again they have no issue doing that now, so how is that really effecting anything?

        This doesn't change that one iota, but in a properly judged fight it does make a difference.
        I don't see the big difference with the half point.

        One could keep the system as it is and ask the judges to score more 10-8 rounds without a kd , and/or score even rounds.

        Don't think it'd make a huge difference, if any at all, though.

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          #44
          Originally posted by B-Bomber
          I don't see the big difference with the half point.

          One could keep the system as it is and ask the judges to score more 10-8 rounds without a kd , and/or score even rounds.

          Don't think it'd make a huge difference, if any at all, though.
          I don't like even rounds, there is something to like between the men every round, so to me scoring an even round is a cop out and if you are scoring a bunch you aren't really making the tough choices required of a judge. Giving someone a slightly lesser options makes it slightly less tough and gives something to pick between.

          The 10-8 thing just is what it is I don't know how many times I have seen a dude straight wrecked on and the the announce team go maybe that was a 10-8 round then go nah I just scored it 10-9.

          Plus there is a lot of grey area in between, I think it can make quite a big difference in any one fight which would mean the world to that fighter that they are getting proper credit and their opponent not too much.

          You are kind of right because it is not something revolutionary the flaws of poor judging don't change, it is more an evolution into something that makes more sense to all involved when done properly.

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          • SplitSecond
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            #45
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            Once again they have no issue doing that now, so how is that really effecting anything?

            This doesn't change that one iota, but in a properly judged fight it does make a difference.
            because the judges scores will be all over the place and one round could make too big a difference

            one round where a fighter gets stunned and is fighting to stay on his feet would be more cleverly spent taking a knee to recover rather than taking a beating and losing the round 10-7 or worse

            and if you do win a round big, you dont have to do anything for a good number of rounds, just fight negative and so be it if you lose some "10-9.5's", if a fighter dominates one round and gets a 10-6 rd for example, he can run for 9 rounds before it catches up to him, with the normal system you can catch up to a 10-6 rd loss in 4 rounds without the need to beat the *** out of your opponent but simply winning the rounds, not everyone is a brawler or a big puncher
            Last edited by SplitSecond; 04-12-2015, 04:21 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by TonyPeri
              The current scoring system does not effectively reflect the winner of a fight. The first feel out rounds where nothing really happens are scored 10/9, the same as a round where one guy lands heavy shots and clearly wins the round without without a knockdown - I know a wipe out round can be 10/8 but that's an extreme. In the past there used to be many even rounds scored for what they called "nothing rounds" nowadays the round is most always given to one fighter 10/9.
              Why not use all ten points to indicate the reality of a round? There has to be a better way to show who imposed their will on who --
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              i like this idea, there should definitely be more even rounds although DG was being the aggressor in those rounds and Pederson was simply dodging punches do i can see why judges would score for him.

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #47
                Originally posted by SplitSecond
                because the judges scores will be all over the place and one round could make too big a difference

                one round where a fighter gets stunned and is fighting to stay on his feet would be more cleverly spent taking a knee to recover rather than taking a beating and losing the round 10-7 or worse

                and if you do win a round big, you dont have to do anything for a good number of rounds, just fight negative and so be it if you lose some "10-9.5's", if a fighter dominates one round and gets a 10-6 rd for example, he can run for 9 rounds before it catches up to him, with the normal system you can catch up to a 10-6 rd loss in 4 rounds without the need to beat the *** out of your opponent but simply winning the rounds, not everyone is a brawler or a big puncher
                Well, half points would be more like it is now as opposed to using all 10, but in general if the judges are properly doing it they should be within a half point of each other. If the judges are bad the system doesn't even matter.

                You should get credit for wrecking on a dude, and you should not be penalized for being edged out as much as losing a round clearly (or getting wrecked).

                If you lose a round 10-6 you can make up ground faster with 1.5 points a round by working the other guy. A guy should not get back in the fight by just edging rounds unless they get them all. A boxer could put it on a dude to get a 8.5 round you don't have to be a brawler or big puncher just dominant in that round.

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                • Mike D
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                  #48
                  I agree with TS. I hate the current 10 point system.

                  For example

                  Fighter A: wins 6 uneventful rounds by a hair and doesn't have a single memorable moment in all 6 of those rounds

                  Fighter B: completely dominates the other 6 rounds (but doesn't score any KDs)

                  And that's a draw. There's something not right with that.

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                  • Enzo Mc is SHIT
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    10 pt must is fine.

                    just have judges score close rounds even.

                    a guy has to clearly win a round.
                    Pretty much this.

                    I think judges should be scoring more 10-10s. I often find that neither fighter does a huge amount in the first, so why feel like you have to pick a winner?

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                    • Mike D
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Enzo Mc is ****
                      Pretty much this.

                      I think judges should be scoring more 10-10s. I often find that neither fighter does a huge amount in the first, so why feel like you have to pick a winner?
                      That's the thing, though. They don't do it. In 50/50 rounds they basically just give the round to the house fighter.

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