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Sounds logical but we wouldn't be having this talk if peterson started whooping Danny's ass earlier instead of giving away rds. Lol
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Using the press wouldn't work for a variety of reasons:
1) You get guys in the press credentialed from "BoxingCrapBlog.com" who probably have no idea how to score a fight. If you decide "only the ones from ESPN, Ring, LA Times," etc., who's going to score the low undercards, who's going to score the main event in Toledo?
2) If you're going to ask people to judge, you have to pay them. ESPN and those others aren't going to ethically allow the people who cover the fights to also get paid by the promotion or commission to cover tem due to conflict of interest -- the same writer may also be doing an investigative piece on the corruption of the promoter or the incompetence of the commission ... yet he'd be taking money for them. Or it could create the appearance that he has a beef with the commission because he got passed over and didn't get to judge the big fight, etc.
3) They had to change the way the college football champioinship game participants in the old BCS system was chosen because it used the Associated Press top 25 as part of the ranking ... and news outlets forbade their writers from participating because that would give them a conflict of interest -- they'd be writing about which teams belonged in the title game while at the same time casting a ballot that influenced who would be in the title game. So that's just not going to happen.
I don't like some of these suggestions because the idea of a 10-1 round means basically a guy can dominate a fight -- say he wins 9 of 10 rounds convincingly but not enough that he gets any 10-8 rounds, but gets knocked down twice and battered in round 5 ... and you get a draw based on a guy having one good round.
Or Judge A is more aggressive in his differentiation -- he gives out nine 10-8 or 10-7 rounds in a fight with no knockdowns because the fighter he favors is boxing the opponent's ears off but not doing real damage, but he considers that domination ... and another judge is giving those rounds 10-9 but favoring the guy who's getting outboxed 10-8 rounds because he's landing 3 or 4 snap-the-head back shots in the rounds he wins.
You'd have just as much controversy as you have now, if not more ... it would just be a different controversy.Last edited by saintpat; 04-12-2015, 02:32 PM.Comment
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It would help if you scored those two round so I know what you're talking about. So instead of a draw, a fighter wins by .5 point? If adding .5pt to the scoring system is a step closer to perfection, why not have .1pt margins? A fighter wins/loses by .1 point? 114-113.9?Comment
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I truly believe changing the system will do little. The will be bad judges no matter what system we use. Better training for judges and referees and making them accountable for their actions is the best way of making the sport more consistent and reliable.
Was a time where corrupt judges were abundant in amateur boxing. Rather than cleaning out the bad judges they changed the scoring system which pretty much ruined amateur boxing. It was a white wash and never truly addressed the true problem.Comment
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It is hypothetical, have you not seen rounds were a guy won just slightly and a round where a dude got punked? Then people ***** later on because the dude who was edging rounds got the nod.
Last night if you want an example Peterson beat the **** out of Garcia in rounds 11 and 12, while Garcia largely won the early round because of Peterson giving them a way doing **** all. Should those rounds be equally scored? How does that make any sense?
It can be tenths if you want but I think .5 serves the purpose just fine.Comment
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I'll toss an idea in. In any type of fight scenario sport or otherwise, the end of the fight is always more important than the start.
The Championship rounds should be worth double. It would definitely force the action more in the later part of the fight.
That way a scenario like Peterson/Garcia where there's an 11th and 12th round beatdown gets rewarded appropriately and a Floyd/Maidana 12th round lap run gets heavily punished.Comment
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Yes, they should be equally scored using the 10-9 scoring unless there was a knockdown or point deduction. Like you said, winning is winning, whether you win by an inch or a mile. So if the guy that barely edged the round won that round, then he won that round. It wouldn't changed the outcome of the scorecard decision either way, but yes the number scores will be closer if that's the objective.Comment
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making it easier to rob fighters, it becomes more opinionated, so imo not a good ideaComment
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No ****, I know how to score a fight because that is how it is now.
Those are not equal rounds though hence why I said they should be scored different. Almost no one views those rounds as equal because it is not logical to call them the same when they are not.
The objective is accuracy in scoring the fight so fans can get it better. If all Garcia's round were 10-9.5 which would be totally legitimate in that fight and all Peterson's were 10-9 and 10-8.5 you don't think that changes the outcome? Which would also be totally legit.
6 rounds at 10-9.5 is 3 points
2 rounds of 10-8.5 are 3 points also.Comment
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