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    MANILA ICE
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    #21
    Originally posted by blockhead
    jermain taylor, fighter of the year? hogwash, he lost the first fight against hop and everyone should know it by now and the second fight was a draw. how could anyone think that sloppy ass taylor should be awarded the prize for fighter of the year?
    taylor is an hbo paper champ and he deserves none of the titles he has, let alone to be awarded fighter of the year honors.
    this should have been a poll ...

    IMHO Ring Mag was right to award Hatton the figther of the year award and should be respected, anybody arguing their decision may have a point or two but totally claiming that the wrong guy one is too much...

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    • whdempsey
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      #22
      Originally posted by blockhead
      jermain taylor, fighter of the year? hogwash, he lost the first fight against hop and everyone should know it by now and the second fight was a draw. how could anyone think that sloppy ass taylor should be awarded the prize for fighter of the year?
      taylor is an hbo paper champ and he deserves none of the titles he has, let alone to be awarded fighter of the year honors.
      No, your post is hogwash. At least the bit about Taylor not being the a real champ. You're right about Hatton deserving it, though.

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        #23
        **** that Taylor should get he got 2 wins over B-Hop Enough said. Hatton don't deserve it.

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        • whdempsey
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          #24
          Look, if you turn the fight game into one of pure statistics, you lose the point of boxing. It's not about numbers. Yes, Taylor won twice against an all-time great, onve more than Hatton did. But Hatton made an all-time great quit, and there was absolutely no controversy about his win. If there was it was trumped up by people who simply don't like Hatton. I respect Taylor a lot for giving Hopkins the worst fight of his career since the draw against Mercado, but I also think that the closeness of both wins, coupled with the age of his opponent should be troubling to anyone who thinks he deserves fighter of the year.

          Yes, I know, Hatton's opponent was aging too, but Tzyu was coming off the best win of his career, and seemed to be having a sort of Indian Summer. Hopkins, on the other hand, had been relying on guile more than he had ever had to, and though his last win had been commanding, it wasn't hall of fame stuff.

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            #25
            Both fights were not close. The 1st one was. Not the second. The second fight Taylor won it hands down. He was more active.

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            • whdempsey
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              #26
              No. I saw both fights, and you're wrong. The second fight was clearer, but both were very close. That's what happens when you fight one of the toughest, craftiest, dirtiest veteran champs around. I'll admit that Hatton's case would be even stronger if his second win had not been against Maussa, but be that the case, Maussa's no pushover, and it was still a devastating knockout. Both of Hatton's wins were absolutely devastating. Think about it, making a top-ten pound for pound fighter quit? One who hadn't lost in nine years. A hall of fame bound fighter at that. One who was coming off a career best win. That's devastation.

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              • wmute
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                #27
                wrong man won?? bull++-t!

                hatton made zoo quit after zoo stopped mitchell and no one this side of the atlantic was giving him a chance

                taylor looked like **** against hopkind after hopkins looked like **** against eastman, taking rounds and rounds off

                the writer of the article is a taylor nuthugger or a hatton hater, or both.

                I hope taylor shows he is a great fighter, but he did not do it this year

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                • armani_model
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  wrong man won?? bull++-t!

                  hatton made zoo quit after zoo stopped mitchell and no one this side of the atlantic was giving him a chance

                  taylor looked like **** against hopkind after hopkins looked like **** against eastman, taking rounds and rounds off

                  the writer of the article is a taylor nuthugger or a hatton hater, or both.

                  I hope taylor shows he is a great fighter, but he did not do it this year
                  Well said!

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                  • blockhead
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by whdempsey
                    No, your post is hogwash. At least the bit about Taylor not being the a real champ. You're right about Hatton deserving it, though.
                    really, so losing a title fight and having it given to you without deserving it makes you a real champ? i guess vitali was a real champ too huh.

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                    • legend
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by blockhead
                      really, so losing a title fight and having it given to you without deserving it makes you a real champ? i guess vitali was a real champ too huh.
                      Name one fighter who would have beaten Vitali. After Lewis retired, VK was practically unchallengeable by the inferior opponents we have today. Also, who cares if Taylor didn't look like a superstar against Hopkins...EVERYONE thought Taylor was too green and would lose. Now that he didn't(TWICE), everyone says he didn't look "badass" enough. I swear, I'm glad I don't use this forum as boxing knowledge, because most of the people on here are ****ing ******ed when it comes to boxing.

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