Buster Douglas performance against tyson is the most overrated performance in history

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  • vandiar
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    #31
    Tyson got his ass handed to him that night by a very determined man. Douglas was inspired, very good shape, had a good game plan and was very focused that night.. then we have Tyson who was the total opposite that night. What does this =? an ass whoopen from a man that put on a masterful performance against someone who the majority of the people THEN thought was indestructable, even Tyson himself which was a part of his downfall. It was a very impressive performance from douglas that night, I don't see how this can be debated and overrated.

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    • K-DOGG
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      #32
      A MAN with NOTHING TO LOSE...is the most dangerous creature on the plantet.

      Douglas on February 10th, 1990 had nothing to lose. He'd lost his best friend, his Mother, two weeks before. He was in danger of losing the mother of his son, who was in the hospital with a serious kidney ailment. He was a 42-1 underdog; Vegas wasn't even taking odds on this fight...NO ONE expected him to win. And he was taking medication for a bout with the Flu. HE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE!

      Most people give up when faced with such adversity...some do not. Some reach deep down inside and put it all together, if only for one effort, or in Buster's case, one night. For just one night in his life, Buster Douglas lived up to his full potential...he put it all together. He discarded his one weakness that had plagued his entire career...a lack of desire...and used every physical asset, ever bit of training he had ever endured. I dare say on that particular NIGHT in time, any figher who has ever lived, would have had trouble with Buster Douglas. For one night in his life, he was a Great Fighter.

      What separates the good from the very good from the Great? Consistancy. The Great ones almost always find a way to win despite the circumstances. The good...most of the time. Most of us...every now and then.

      It's no secret that Buster Douglas, overall, was a meiocre fighter in terms of his career. He had all the physical skills that any heavyweight can hope or dream of being blessed with; but he was missing that special something within that separates the Greats from the rest of the pack. That same certain something that drove the vastly under-blessed Marciano to an undefeated record among giants. Rock made the most of what he had because he wanted it THAT BAD...emphasis on "wanted it". The same intangible trait is found within all of the True-Greats: Ali, Holmes, Louis, Dempset, etc. Here's the secret though, every man, every woman...every one has that trait within them; but most of us allow distractions and self-doubt to prevent us from tapping in and being the best we can be....which is why only a chosen few individual throughout time, in any profession or vocation are remembered while so many are forgotten. Those few that are remembered, tapped in to their inner strength and let nothing stand in their way of achieving their goals. Most of us fall far short of achieving our own individual goals.

      But...for one night, Buster Douglas did more than most of us do throughout our entire lifetimes....he lived up to his best...and surpassed it, by ignoring his fears and just doing it.

      Because it's so unphathomable that a mere mediocre fighter had the ability to best a feared human wrecking machine as Tyson was perceived at the time, pathetic excuses are tossed out...anything to deny a man his achievement and to protect our cherished order of things. Is it not better to believe that if he can, we all can too....or to accept that the impossible is just that and there must be a plausible explanation?

      Was Mike at his best that night? No, because he thought of Douglas what we all did. However, that Mike Tyson was still capable of knocking out the bulk of the heavyweight contenders at that time, even not being at 100%. The only others who could conceivealby have taken advantage of his ill-preparedness would have been Evander Holyfield and Razor Ruddock among the Top Ten.

      The 8th round knock down some insist on pointing out as the moment where Tyson won the fight is nothing special in the history of the sport and only the result of Don King's greed for the showdown between Tyson and Holyfield to go on. If Don hadn't wigged out over the only moment when Mike looked to do what he was Supposed to do, how many would have pointed to that round? None, I say. Congradulation on being brainwashed...those of you who really believe that the fight should have ended then and there.

      The fact is Buster did get up. The fact is he could have gotten up before he did. The fact is a fighter is not suppossed to watch the Time Keeper. The fact is if he was really hurt, Mike should have finished him off in the early moments of the 9th. The fact is Douglas got nailed in the 9th and refused to cow and, in fact, nearly knocked Mike out in that round....for it was HIS NIGHT!

      Accept it or don't; but only those who cling to excuses and refuse to accept the glorius fact that all of us, no matter how mediocre, have greatness within are the losers in this argument.


      Peace.

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      • vandiar
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        #33
        Originally posted by K-DOGG
        A MAN with NOTHING TO LOSE...is the most dangerous creature on the plantet.

        Douglas on February 10th, 1990 had nothing to lose. He'd lost his best friend, his Mother, two weeks before. He was in danger of losing the mother of his son, who was in the hospital with a serious kidney ailment. He was a 42-1 underdog; Vegas wasn't even taking odds on this fight...NO ONE expected him to win. And he was taking medication for a bout with the Flu. HE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE!

        Most people give up when faced with such adversity...some do not. Some reach deep down inside and put it all together, if only for one effort, or in Buster's case, one night. For just one night in his life, Buster Douglas lived up to his full potential...he put it all together. He discarded his one weakness that had plagued his entire career...a lack of desire...and used every physical asset, ever bit of training he had ever endured. I dare say on that particular NIGHT in time, any figher who has ever lived, would have had trouble with Buster Douglas. For one night in his life, he was a Great Fighter.

        What separates the good from the very good from the Great? Consistancy. The Great ones almost always find a way to win despite the circumstances. The good...most of the time. Most of us...every now and then.

        It's no secret that Buster Douglas, overall, was a meiocre fighter in terms of his career. He had all the physical skills that any heavyweight can hope or dream of being blessed with; but he was missing that special something within that separates the Greats from the rest of the pack. That same certain something that drove the vastly under-blessed Marciano to an undefeated record among giants. Rock made the most of what he had because he wanted it THAT BAD...emphasis on "wanted it". The same intangible trait is found within all of the True-Greats: Ali, Holmes, Louis, Dempset, etc. Here's the secret though, every man, every woman...every one has that trait within them; but most of us allow distractions and self-doubt to prevent us from tapping in and being the best we can be....which is why only a chosen few individual throughout time, in any profession or vocation are remembered while so many are forgotten. Those few that are remembered, tapped in to their inner strength and let nothing stand in their way of achieving their goals. Most of us fall far short of achieving our own individual goals.

        But...for one night, Buster Douglas did more than most of us do throughout our entire lifetimes....he lived up to his best...and surpassed it, by ignoring his fears and just doing it.

        Because it's so unphathomable that a mere mediocre fighter had the ability to best a feared human wrecking machine as Tyson was perceived at the time, pathetic excuses are tossed out...anything to deny a man his achievement and to protect our cherished order of things. Is it not better to believe that if he can, we all can too....or to accept that the impossible is just that and there must be a plausible explanation?

        Was Mike at his best that night? No, because he thought of Douglas what we all did. However, that Mike Tyson was still capable of knocking out the bulk of the heavyweight contenders at that time, even not being at 100%. The only others who could conceivealby have taken advantage of his ill-preparedness would have been Evander Holyfield and Razor Ruddock among the Top Ten.

        The 8th round knock down some insist on pointing out as the moment where Tyson won the fight is nothing special in the history of the sport and only the result of Don King's greed for the showdown between Tyson and Holyfield to go on. If Don hadn't wigged out over the only moment when Mike looked to do what he was Supposed to do, how many would have pointed to that round? None, I say. Congradulation on being brainwashed...those of you who really believe that the fight should have ended then and there.

        The fact is Buster did get up. The fact is he could have gotten up before he did. The fact is a fighter is not suppossed to watch the Time Keeper. The fact is if he was really hurt, Mike should have finished him off in the early moments of the 9th. The fact is Douglas got nailed in the 9th and refused to cow and, in fact, nearly knocked Mike out in that round....for it was HIS NIGHT!

        Accept it or don't; but only those who cling to excuses and refuse to accept the glorius fact that all of us, no matter how mediocre, have greatness within are the losers in this argument.


        Peace.
        nice post, it was very apparent mike wasn't his usual self that night, but douglas's performance was a great one and like you said he was someone who had nothing to lost and was VERY determined and probably would have givin alot of great heavyweights trouble on that night.

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        • Revere
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          #34
          Originally posted by K-DOGG



          Was Mike at his best that night? No, because he thought of Douglas what we all did. However, that Mike Tyson was still capable of knocking out the bulk of the heavyweight contenders at that time, even not being at 100%. The only others who could conceivealby have taken advantage of his ill-preparedness would have been Evander Holyfield and Razor Ruddock among the Top Ten.

          Good post. I might add a few to the list of those who could have taken advantage of Tyson that night.

          George Foreman
          Ray Mercer
          Tim Witherspoon
          Last edited by Revere; 03-25-2006, 08:35 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Revere
            Good post. I might add a few to the list of those who could have take advantage of Tyson that night.

            George Foreman
            Ray Mercer
            Tim Witherspoon
            Good point. I can agree with those names. Good call.

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              #36
              those guys didnt have the special skills to beat tyson. you all just act like tyason was nothing that night. tyson was dangerous with a capital D AND BUSTER had the answers. ya'll are fools to try and discredit busters showing

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                #37
                Originally posted by Revere
                Good post. I might add a few to the list of those who could have take advantage of Tyson that night.

                George Foreman
                Ray Mercer
                Tim Witherspoon

                are you somehow related to tim witherspoon?

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                • Revere
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                  #38
                  You dont think he could have?

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                    #39
                    As far as im concerned, Buster delivered one of the best performances i've ever seen. He looked like a top 10 HW of all time that night. He basicely had everything that night. From this day on, im happy for him because he fought for his mother that night, and you gotta respect that.

                    Im a huge fan of Tyson, but im not gonna deny it was his own fault he lost. He underestimated Douglass, did not train enough because he thought he was invincible. There are no excuses for his loss that night. but he showed a lot of heart and chin, and almost came back to win the fight in the 8th. ALMOST, but it was Buster's night.

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                    • vandiar
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Yaman
                      As far as im concerned, Buster delivered one of the best performances i've ever seen. He looked like a top 10 HW of all time that night. He basicely had everything that night. From this day on, im happy for him because he fought for his mother that night, and you gotta respect that.

                      Im a huge fan of Tyson, but im not gonna deny it was his own fault he lost. He underestimated Douglass, did not train enough because he thought he was invincible. There are no excuses for his loss that night. but he showed a lot of heart and chin, and almost came back to win the fight in the 8th. ALMOST, but it was Buster's night.

                      very much agree, it was fate on tyson's part. I tell you, if I was tyson's age and on top of the world like he was.. money, fame, women, can do a lot to someone who NEEDS good influences around him. I for one, would have probably ***ed up just as bad as he did at his age. It's hard to even think of me being in the position that he was in at such a young age. He was phenominal and he blew it, most people his age would have done the same thing with all that fame and fortune.

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