Comments Thread For: Roach Has Pacquiao Focused To Avoid Right Hand, Traps

[Sindawg364]

He just said he's working on it, not that they're changing Pac's style.

I'm confused, but okay.

[Hype job]

Who outweighed him by 20lb, knew how to cut off the ring, was much stronger and bigger than Pac and knew how to use that weight against Floyd.

Was he really 20lbs bigger?

He didn't really use his weight much.

Although Floyd won clearer in the 2nd fight, I thought he looked much worse, he was getting feinted to the ropes pretty bad, reflexes accuracy and speed looked a lot worse. Movement was significantly reduced after the 6th was generally more sluggish.

He's in a dangerous place if he's trapped on the ropes.

[Sindawg364]

Was he really 20lbs bigger?

He didn't really use his weight much.

Although Floyd won clearer in the 2nd fight, I thought he looked much worse, he was getting feinted to the ropes pretty bad, reflexes accuracy and speed looked a lot worse. Movement was significantly reduced after the 6th was generally more sluggish.

He's in a dangerous place if he's trapped on the ropes.

Madiana did a good job foot Feinting floyd in the second fight, which pushed floyd to the ropes.

[megadeth]

floyd fights different from marquez though. just because they're both counter puncher it doesnt mean they fight the same or that what marquez did will work with floyd. its funny because when i first started debating with u, u seem like a legit dude and then now ur starting to sound just like every other floyd fans with the "oh will marquez did it", but u guys are the first to shoot a pac fan down for doing the same thing when it comes to manny.

I'm still legit bro. There is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions from Marquez and applying them to Floyd. Again, I am not saying that because Marquez beat Pac, Floyd beats him. I am saying that Floyd can figure him out because he has a higher IQ and is better at figuring out fighters than Marquez is. Are you telling me it's not logical to think that? Yes, they fight differently, but, Floyd can do everything that Marquez can do, can he not? Do you really believe that if need be, Floyd can't fight like Marquez does? If not, go back and look at how he fought in the lower weights with combinations and taking lots of chances. He doesn't need to though. It seems that you are suggesting that I am saying that he needs to fight like Marquez to beat Pac, when there is more than one way to beat Pac and Marquez took A LOT of lumps doing it. I think Floyd does it and does it without taking near as much punishment. Regardless, it's all speculation on everyone's part. We just have to wait until May 2nd to see what happen.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

There are guys with far worse defense than Manny Pacquiao. Guys like Andre Berto, Brandon Rios, Mike Alvarado are all far worse than Manny. I hope this is a joke.

I think you can also say Shawn Porter's defense isn't that good either.

I'm confused, but okay.

I'm not sure how you're confused. All Roach said is that they're working on Pacquiao's ability to cut off the ring and not stay in the pocket too long. Just some improvements here and there, not a complete change.

[Hype job]

Madiana did a good job foot Feinting floyd in the second fight, which pushed floyd to the ropes.

And who has some of the best feints in boxing?

[Sindawg364]

And who has some of the best feints in boxing?

Manny, and he will need to use those feints if he wants to control distance, win the foot placement, and get within range.

The concern is he feints, then plants and leap in. Do you agree or disagee?

[ELPacman]

Let's not forget it took Marquez over 36 rds to finally get that KO of Pac and although he had Pac's style down pretty well, Pac still gave him hell for those fights regardless of whether you think Pac won them or not.

Someone mentioned feints, I too believe these can work well against Jr. Pac has some of the best feints when he's kicking on all gears. The sheer confusion he puts his opponents in have them guessing completely where the punches are coming at or they are defending the wrong places. Now I'm sure Jr. will be able to handle the feints a bit better than most, but when your tired, that's when the punches start to land that you don't think will because your not sure where hell they coming from and too tired to react in time.

[Evol]

I'm still legit bro. There is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions from Marquez and applying them to Floyd. Again, I am not saying that because Marquez beat Pac, Floyd beats him. I am saying that Floyd can figure him out because he has a higher IQ and is better at figuring out fighters than Marquez is. Are you telling me it's not logical to think that? Yes, they fight differently, but, Floyd can do everything that Marquez can do, can he not? Do you really believe that if need be, Floyd can't fight like Marquez does? If not, go back and look at how he fought in the lower weights with combinations and taking lots of chances. He doesn't need to though. It seems that you are suggesting that I am saying that he needs to fight like Marquez to beat Pac, when there is more than one way to beat Pac and Marquez took A LOT of lumps doing it. I think Floyd does it and does it without taking near as much punishment. Regardless, it's all speculation on everyone's part. We just have to wait until May 2nd to see what happen.

no, i am not saying anything close to saying floyd needs to fight like marquez to be successful against manny, i think u're the one that is trying to suggest that just because they're both counter punchers. marquez went thru hell and back plus 4 fights to "figure" manny out.

[Hype job]

Madiana did a good job foot Feinting floyd in the second fight, which pushed floyd to the ropes.

Manny, and he will need to use those feints if he wants to control distance, win the foot placement, and get within range.

The concern is he feints, then plants and leap in. Do you agree or disagee?

I agree ..........................