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  • #71
    Originally posted by Evol View Post
    im being emotional over this when all i asked was why do u make it seem like floyd will adapt to anything and everything pac does?
    I didn't. I was referring to Pac training for the right hand.

    Originally posted by Evol View Post
    and i cant give u a straight answer on if floyd will and can adapt to what pac brings. this is why im interested in seeing how this fight will play out. i will tell u floyd will have his moments but so will manny.
    Why would Pac be any different than any other fighter? Jmm adapated easily in fight #1, you really don't think that FLoyd can? I agree..I just feel that Floyd will have a lot more of them than Pac will.

    Originally posted by Evol View Post
    its not gonna be a walk in the park like a lot of u floyd fans is trying to make this fight out to be. and if im wrong and floyd does cruise to a clear victory then floyd is the better fighter and i was wrong. i just hope u will show the same in return when manny shock the world.
    I don't think it will be a walk in the park either. At least not until the 4-5 round. After that, I believe it will be an pretty ez fight for Floyd and he either stops Pac late or unanimously decisions him.

    I am a boxing fan 1st before anything. If Pac wins be here to take my lumps and give him 100% credit with NO EXCUSES on May 3rd.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by megadeth View Post
      Nothing about Educated opinion indicates that it has to be explained. It means I am using past to make an "educated opinion". It doesn't mean i'm trying to "educate" anyone.

      We all know what Floyd does in fights. Why are we even debating this? He uses the first few rounds to figure out what his opponent does and then he adapts to it. This is one of the reasons why he is considered to have such a high boxing IQ. So, you would like us to think that he is going to throw his boxing IQ out the window for this one fight? Makes sense!
      yes we do, u dont need to explain further more on that. what im trying to tell u is that manny is not like any of floyd's past opponents. im not saying he's gonna throw his ring IQ out the window for this, im trying to tell u that maybe what he does might not work on manny like it did on the other guys, so are u saying the only way pac wins is if floyd throw the fight away?

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Biolink View Post
        He's gonna have to sell out a little bit because his defensive skills aren't that special and Mayweather is too good with his timing and range to not catch him with something coming in or at the least to keep him occupied with the thought that something is coming back at him.

        I feel like Mayweather is gonna make an effort to stuff Pacquiao's jab and force him to fight going backwards or to hold his ground. He can also throw the left hook on him from long range because of the arm length disparity and he can follow that up with a right to the head or body or even a check left hook if Manny gets into that bad habit of dropping his right after throwing the left.

        Manny and Roach really have their work cut of for them.
        I really believe Manny has to mix up his fighting style. I've been watching his fights, and I believe he's more effective when he sits down, and picks his shots behind his head movement. He be able to punch, and swim out of the way of the counter punches. He's also in better position to hide his right hand, and throw a left upper cut. The only way he gets in punching range is to work behind his head movement.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by megadeth View Post
          I didn't. I was referring to Pac training for the right hand.



          Why would Pac be any different than any other fighter? Jmm adapated easily in fight #1, you really don't think that FLoyd can? I agree..I just feel that Floyd will have a lot more of them than Pac will.



          I don't think it will be a walk in the park either. At least not until the 4-5 round. After that, I believe it will be an pretty ez fight for Floyd and he either stops Pac late or unanimously decisions him.

          I am a boxing fan 1st before anything. If Pac wins be here to take my lumps and give him 100% credit with NO EXCUSES on May 3rd.

          there u go again with triangle theory. if marquez could floyd could. and i disagree that marquez adapted easily in fight #1, marquez did better in the second half but adapt easily is reaching.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Evol View Post
            yes we do, u dont need to explain further more on that. what im trying to tell u is that manny is not like any of floyd's past opponents. im not saying he's gonna throw his ring IQ out the window for this, im trying to tell u that maybe what he does might not work on manny like it did on the other guys, so are u saying the only way pac wins is if floyd throw the fight away?
            Sure, that is a possiblity. I don't think there is much chance of it, but it is POSSIBLE that what Floyd does normally will not work on Pac. My personal opinion? I truly believe that unless Floyd gets REALLY OLD on May 2nd, there is no way that Pac wins this fight. It all depends on what Floyd does, not on Pac. That's how I feel about it.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by megadeth View Post
              Sure, that is a possiblity. I don't think there is much chance of it, but it is POSSIBLE that what Floyd does normally will not work on Pac. My personal opinion? I truly believe that unless Floyd gets REALLY OLD on May 2nd, there is no way that Pac wins this fight. It all depends on what Floyd does, not on Pac. That's how I feel about it.
              He looked pretty old against Maidana breh

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Evol View Post
                there u go again with triangle theory. if marquez could floyd could. and i disagree that marquez adapted easily in fight #1, marquez did better in the second half but adapt easily is reaching.
                I don't believe it's a triange theory. I am using logic. Floyd is a smarter fighter than Marquez and he was able to figure Pac out. This is not just ring smarts, I didn't include the fact that Floyd is faster, longer, stronger, bigger, better defense, a better counter puncher, more accurate. I am NOT saying that Floyd beats him because Marquez did, I am saying that if Marquez who is not as ring smart as Floyd can figure him out, than so can Floyd.

                Ok, "he adapted". I said easily because he was not getting hit by the same punch that hurt him previously.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by megadeth View Post
                  Sure, that is a possiblity. I don't think there is much chance of it, but it is POSSIBLE that what Floyd does normally will not work on Pac. My personal opinion? I truly believe that unless Floyd gets REALLY OLD on May 2nd, there is no way that Pac wins this fight. It all depends on what Floyd does, not on Pac. That's how I feel about it.
                  I think when you compare technical fighters to offensive fighters, you're not really capturing the fight game. Technical fighters normally have an advantage due to positioning, controlling distances, and capitalizing on mistakes. Offensive fighters plan is to overwhelm you with volume.

                  If you look at Algeria vs Manny, you will see him capitalize on Manny's mistakes, and Manny forced him to defend by being offensive.

                  Do you think Floyd will stand in front of Manny the first two rounds to feel his power and get his speed down or will he get his respect early?

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                  • #79
                    They really think Mayweather is going to be sticking and moving...


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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      why do u guys act like manny is gonna come out and be a whole new fighter and fight totally different as compare to how he usually fights? team pac is just working on small things, u guys act like roach is talking about switching manny's style completely for this fight.
                      Because he has become tentative before over thinking stuff, and it's made him look like a different guy before. Pac approached the 3rd Marquez fight with a thinking approach and it dropped his work rate and made the fight very close.

                      Trying to fix his defense versus a punch that has consistently landed on him for free his entire career and fixing stuff like dropping his right hand after throwing the left isn't a "small thing". Those are grand canyon sized flaws when dealing with a counter puncher of the calibur of Mayweather. He's gotten away with it because he is a great one, but even Roach knows what has to be done and overcome for them in order to win this time around.

                      Going to a neutral stance like Roach says instead of continuing to follow Mayweather like he would do against any other opponent isn't a "small thing". Doing that alone will drop his work rate without Mayweather even having to do anything. It introduces a whole other aspect to Pacquiao's gameplan and something he's never had to think about doing for the most part.

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