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  • #91
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
    The only problem would be you hating for no reason. Your answer is basically saying I know what your thinking, when I don't... Cotto's first option for the belt wasn't Heiland or K9 it was Floyd. His backup was Canelo, they didn't work out so now he's looking at some other options, so yeah, I don't see a problem. Never said they were good fights, but it's the best option he has.
    It is the best option he has bar GGG (and this is debateable) , which if he wanted to get in the ring with once Canelo fight fell off he was more then welcome to take.
    GGG only took his next date once Cotto made it clear he will not fight him on his Vol.
    as others mentioned before , we want the MW WBC lineal champion of the world to challange the best or hand it over , this is what makes our sport great , is there a bussiness side ? sure , are we as fans should tolerate it in any scenario , most def NO.
    ppl here mentions the NFL/NBA/Tennis , in those sports the best always play the best , its not their choice because the league (or in our case alphabet guys) decides that the best play the best until we have a champion.
    in boxing its different due to many reasons , but the core of "the best vs the best" should not be ignored.
    I for one give cotto a free pass on his first vol if he indeed takes GGG next and dont vacate , if he planned to vacate all along he shouldve taken the easy vol MUCH earlier or vacate a while back.
    Fans should let him know that we love the sport and care for the competitive side of it , not the bussiness side.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
      You're right, but you do realize it takes forever to translate that entire conversation and no one is getting paid for it. Now you know what he said for the most part, he was talking trash about his resume. The title is misleading.
      No one has to give a word for word translation, but an attempt to give an accurate idea of what is being discussed should be made or the video should not be posted in the first place. Wait for someone else to post it who has the time to do it properly. Coming first is not always the best thing. Just ask any woman.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
        The only problem would be you hating for no reason. Your answer is basically saying I know what your thinking, when I don't... Cotto's first option for the belt wasn't Heiland or K9 it was Floyd. His backup was Canelo, they didn't work out so now he's looking at some other options, so yeah, I don't see a problem. Never said they were good fights, but it's the best option he has.
        That was his first option? REALLY? Did they ever have discussions? Were negotiations ever entered into? Not that I or anyone else on the Internet is aware of. It may have been the first option in the minds of his delusional fans but not in the real world. His first option was Canelo and his 'dream' option may have been Floyd, but that's all it was - a dream, a fantasy. Never a realistic possibility.

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        • #94
          why would Cotto punch with his left? isn't he orthodox?

          He says to compare their resume Canelo and GGG, that is why he picked Canelo

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
            Boxing is like every other sport in America, money comes first. If no one was getting paid, no one would be killing themselves to play in the NFL. The money in every sport, is more important than the actual game and boxing is no different. If Cotto beats his voluntary the WBC isn't going to make him fight GGG if a Canelo or Floyd fight is an option. Everyone will make more money than they would if Cotto were to face GGG at any point, he's still unknown. The WBC will just give Cotto another voluntary for more money. That's the reality of boxing.
            Then rankings, championships, and status are meaningless if they can be bypassed and excused because of money doe.......In that case why should Cotto fight other boxers? Why not a popular celebrity or Ronda Rousey? That would make more money than him fighting any pro fighter.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
              again stop talking out your ass... he was asked which is the more attractive (lucrative) fight... he said canelo.

              nothing compared to what your trying to make it sound like.

              again, I will be doing a translation in a bit.
              That maybe true for now hard to say because GGG is gaining steam but it retracts from the central issue of the entire MW title picture.

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              • #97
                When asked about his "rival" (rival in spanish meaning "opponent") cotto replied, "I have no idea". Then they did a quick joke saying "we should bring Gaby (penagaricano) to ask him hahaha". Cotto "You can ask them". Bernardo then explains about the two boxers and choses K9 because K9 is more known then Heiland. Tony chose Heiland because he thinks it would be a better fight than what K9 would bring. Tony then explains about seeing the heiland-macklin fight saying that it was an intense fight and would like to see that vs cotto. Then Bernardo asks cotto what weight would the fight be at? Cotto responds it depends what would be more lucrative* ( * http://es.thefreedictionary.com/beneficio ). Then he asks cotto to choose one and cotto said he couldn't. ESPN nacion poll had K9 winning by 53%.

                Then Bernardo asks cotto who's closer whos more lucrative as an opponent Canelo or GGG cotto answers that canelo is more closer as an opponent. Saying that if you compare the two that canelo is the more attractive option. Then Bernardo was gonna start saying about "buisness" and cotto quickly stated that in business sense that there's no doubt that canelo is the more lucrative opponent.

                Bernardo then asks about why the fight didn't happen. Cotto responds that all fights have negotiations. That the negotiations started out good, then it got stuck in certain parts and they decided to go a different way, so we also then went a different way, but there's always the option of doing negotiations again for the fight. Bernardo asks if there would be any issues in that negotiation and cotto responds of course not. Tony also selects Canelo as the more lucrative option for cotto. Bernardo also selects canelo and explains that "yes the record is great and he's winning his fight in great fashion but the big question remains is against who? and for this reason I chose canelo".
                65% of Nacion ESPN poll had Canelo > GGG for the opponent for cotto.

                Then they let cotto hit the bad and cotto gets a 774 compared to GGG's 776

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                  Then rankings, championships, and status are meaningless if they can be bypassed and excused because of money doe.......In that case why should Cotto fight other boxers? Why not a popular celebrity or Ronda Rousey? That would make more money than him fighting any pro fighter.
                  Wait, so because I know boxing is foul and corrupt it means I like watching mismatches and Cotto versus Rousey? That's some logic you have there...

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                    No one has to give a word for word translation, but an attempt to give an accurate idea of what is being discussed should be made or the video should not be posted in the first place. Wait for someone else to post it who has the time to do it properly. Coming first is not always the best thing. Just ask any woman.
                    No one has to translate for you and you shouldn't assume what is being said because you think that was being said. Ask someone to translate if you have an issue but there is no need to jump to conclusions.

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                    • Originally posted by bluzi View Post
                      It is the best option he has bar GGG (and this is debateable) , which if he wanted to get in the ring with once Canelo fight fell off he was more then welcome to take.
                      GGG only took his next date once Cotto made it clear he will not fight him on his Vol.
                      as others mentioned before , we want the MW WBC lineal champion of the world to challange the best or hand it over , this is what makes our sport great , is there a bussiness side ? sure , are we as fans should tolerate it in any scenario , most def NO.
                      ppl here mentions the NFL/NBA/Tennis , in those sports the best always play the best , its not their choice because the league (or in our case alphabet guys) decides that the best play the best until we have a champion.
                      in boxing its different due to many reasons , but the core of "the best vs the best" should not be ignored.
                      I for one give cotto a free pass on his first vol if he indeed takes GGG next and dont vacate , if he planned to vacate all along he shouldve taken the easy vol MUCH earlier or vacate a while back.
                      Fans should let him know that we love the sport and care for the competitive side of it , not the bussiness side.
                      Be mad at the WBC for giving Cotto a voluntary, not Cotto for taking it.

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