Comments Thread For: Miguel Cotto Reportedly Has Heiland on Hold if No K9

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #111
    Originally posted by Humean
    Heiland is ranked #1 by the WBC. I don't think you can criticize Cotto on those grounds. Soliman may be better than Heiland but he is not ranked by the WBC and besides neither Heiland nor Soliman bring much to the table financially. The truth of the matter is that none of the current possible opponents really justify Cotto not having fought Golovkin right now. Canelo was justifiable, nothing else is.
    Please read my earlier posts regarding the ranking. Other than that, we are totally in agreement.

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      #112
      it'll be funny if these cherrypicks beats cotto.

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        #113
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Certainly not Poor Taylor. Soliman is better than Heiland but still not very good at this point. MW sucks in general and picking a non ranked opponent is pathetic. How can he defend calling himself the worllds champion?
        Since jermaine taylor is still in the rankings, that means that the rankings haven't been updated recently for the mw division.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          it'll be funny if these cherrypicks beats cotto.
          fightin a guy that is ranked possibly top 15 (since you cant really see outside the top 10 usually and they haven't updated rankings) and is ranked #1 by the WBC is a cherry pick now?

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            #115
            Originally posted by Humean
            Heiland is ranked #1 by the WBC. I don't think you can criticize Cotto on those grounds. Soliman may be better than Heiland but he is not ranked by the WBC and besides neither Heiland nor Soliman bring much to the table financially. The truth of the matter is that none of the current possible opponents really justify Cotto not having fought Golovkin right now. Canelo was justifiable, nothing else is.
            so.....

            Its justifiable for cotto to defend his mw title vs canelo

            but not justifiable for cotto to defend vs WBC ranked #1 heiland?

            o... k...

            other than that everything else in your post I agree.

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            • Humean
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              #116
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Please read my earlier posts regarding the ranking. Other than that, we are totally in agreement.
              I know you were talking about 'independent' rankings but Cotto is not defending an independent rankings title but the WBC title. In that top 10 I suppose Geale is probably the best fighter who is also independently ranked. I think Geale would actually be the best option.

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                #117
                Originally posted by bigjavi973
                Since jermaine taylor is still in the rankings, that means that the rankings haven't been updated recently for the mw division.
                I do think that the rankings reflect Heiland's win last year over the shot to sjit Macklin. Dont you?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Humean
                  I know you were talking about 'independent' rankings but Cotto is not defending an independent rankings title but the WBC title. In that top 10 I suppose Geale is probably the best fighter who is also independently ranked. I think Geale would actually be the best option.
                  The point is, and you agree here, is that one year after winning the title Cotto should have fought GGG. Its his own fault that he didn't make a defense against a Heiland caliber opponent earlier.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    so.....

                    Its justifiable for cotto to defend his mw title vs canelo

                    but not justifiable for cotto to defend vs WBC ranked #1 heiland?

                    o... k...

                    other than that everything else in your post I agree.
                    Canelo is ranked #1 at 154 and a former 154 WBC champion. Cotto-Canelo is also a very big fight. Cotto is entitled to a voluntary so in one sense fighting Heiland is perfectly fine but in another it is not a fight many really want to see and therefore not a fight that will generated big money. Therefore what is the point of it?

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      so.....

                      Its justifiable for cotto to defend his mw title vs canelo

                      but not justifiable for cotto to defend vs WBC ranked #1 heiland?

                      o... k...

                      other than that everything else in your post I agree.
                      Dude. A Canelo fight would be a monumental moneyspinner. I personally wouldn't like it, as I think he should stop ducking GGG, but I could somewhat understand it from a financial and prestigerous standpoint.

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