Floyd didnt hang up, Manny and/or Koncz did. I just cant comprehend how easy it is to manipulate some minds on here. PPV was NEVER discussed. Dont know why i even said anything. People are too far gone with their favorite and their agenda.
Its fine and dandy that you obviously like one over the other, but for you to say Manny (and his team) only gets blamed for the first time is blind love/hate.
I read this and realized you are one of those Floyd fans...
Yes he did offer Manny a $40 mil flat no upside. If Manny would have accepted it he would have been the laughing stock in boxing world.
There are half ass offer, and there are whole hearted offer. This offer that they negotiated is well above what was Floyd's initial offer of $40 mil.
You're right, he want to control almost everything and he got them. If Manny and company played hard ball we won't be seeing this fight made. I truly believe that Manny and co. really wanted this fight and now they have to win this fight and give Floyd the medicine of his own on the rematch negotiations.
You may want to check when offer was made? It was made after "ill fight him for free." or "ill take less"the offer was double anything Manny had made.....so who really is to blame.....oh wait, Mannys word doesnt mean **** unless it fits PacNations agenda......regardless fights done and is happening.
Roach is talking more S. H. I. T. than colitis lately. I wonder how much talking he'll be doing at the post fight press conference should Manny lose, which I feel he will? Will Roach congratulate or continue to hate?
He'll just say that Manny didn't fight the proper game plan or blame something else.
Manny will likely get get double the $40 mil, no ppv offer, but less than the 50/50 deal he walked away from in 2009.
And Cotto isn't beating Floyd. You know this in your heart.
I could care less who makes what, I'm not a fan of either fighter I just dislike Floyd as a person much more. I don't like Manny either, he just doesn't punch woman.
As for the rematch, you should know I picked Floyd to win the first time, but said it would be Floyd's toughest fight. Freddie turned the clock back on Cotto and Floyd has slipped just as much, if not more than Cotto has gotten better. Cotto's taken some beatings so he's got a lot of mileage but his still 5 or 6 years younger than Floyd and he's been less active surprisingly. So he is fresh especially as compared to his Trout performance. I genuinely think Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch because Floyd has slowed enough and Cotto gave Floyd all he could handle. Floyd didn't even "figure" Cotto out, the 9th and 10th were close rounds, even the media had Cotto winning the 10th it was just Cotto gassing that sealed his fate. I don't think a southpaw is how you beat Floyd, I think it's a Cotto/GGG style. Strong jab, body work, smother and cut off the ring.
I could care less who makes what, I'm not a fan of either fighter I just dislike Floyd as a person much more. I don't like Manny either, he just doesn't punch woman.
As for the rematch, you should know I picked Floyd to win the first time, but said it would be Floyd's toughest fight. Freddie turned the clock back on Cotto and Floyd has slipped just as much, if not more than Cotto has gotten better. Cotto's taken some beatings so he's got a lot of mileage but his still 5 or 6 years younger than Floyd and he's been less active surprisingly. So he is fresh especially as compared to his Trout performance. I genuinely think Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch because Floyd has slowed enough and Cotto gave Floyd all he could handle. Floyd didn't even "figure" Cotto out, the 9th and 10th were close rounds, even the media had Cotto winning the 10th it was just Cotto gassing that sealed his fate. I don't think a southpaw is how you beat Floyd, I think it's a Cotto/GGG style. Strong jab, body work, smother and cut off the ring.
I have a hard time believing that considering you stated Manny (and his team) only gets blamed for first failed negotiations and Floyd was the reason for the other 250 things.
Can you guys imagine how annoying/enraging it would be getting asked about fighting Manny by every single reporter, boxing fan, stranger on the street, stripper on your lap, etc. for YEARS on end? Having them imply you are a coward over and over? It would be enough to drive a person mad. Floyd had enough. He finally got to the point where he'd rather take his chances in the ring than deal with that shtt for god knows how much longer.. Even if he loses, at least he won't have to deal with that shtt anymore.
I could care less who makes what, I'm not a fan of either fighter I just dislike Floyd as a person much more. I don't like Manny either, he just doesn't punch woman.
As for the rematch, you should know I picked Floyd to win the first time, but said it would be Floyd's toughest fight. Freddie turned the clock back on Cotto and Floyd has slipped just as much, if not more than Cotto has gotten better. Cotto's taken some beatings so he's got a lot of mileage but his still 5 or 6 years younger than Floyd and he's been less active surprisingly. So he is fresh especially as compared to his Trout performance. I genuinely think Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch because Floyd has slowed enough and Cotto gave Floyd all he could handle. Floyd didn't even "figure" Cotto out, the 9th and 10th were close rounds, even the media had Cotto winning the 10th it was just Cotto gassing that sealed his fate. I don't think a southpaw is how you beat Floyd, I think it's a Cotto/GGG style. Strong jab, body work, smother and cut off the ring.
what about the 11th and the 12th, especially late when Floyd wobbled Cotto? It appeared he took the 10th off to a degree so he could finish strong.
Cotto won 3 maybe 4 rounds, he gave Floyd a bloody nose. He was as far from a win as zab was. But closer than Canelo.
He stated he keeps all PPV, which does not mean he does not disburse the money when it all comes down to it. I mean Maidana got paid off PPV. I dont believe everything I hear just to fit an agenda, so i find it extremely implausible that Manny would not get PPV if Canelo, Cotto, and maidana all got some. But whatever.
I am on a phone or I would link it here but go to YouTube and type in mayweather bob costas interview. Mayweather said after that phone conversation Manny sent kontz to Vegas to negotiate but mayweather wasn't willing to give up any ppv so they weren't willing to make a deal. I dont know how much more clear mayweather had to be for his own fans to believe him when he says stuff that doesn't make him look good. Lmao there's hours of YouTube footage of him being a coward and you guys always somehow come up for an excuse for everything, even when mayweather says it in exact words.
what about the 11th and the 12th, especially late when Floyd wobbled Cotto? It appeared he took the 10th off to a degree so he could finish strong.
Cotto won 3 maybe 4 rounds, he gave Floyd a bloody nose. He was as far from a win as zab was. But closer than Canelo.
I still laugh at this. people took victory from Floyd having a bloody nose. They still go crazy cause Mosley almost knocked him down. I guess when you hate someone you have to go full force and take any sort of victory you can.
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