Comments Thread For: Ellerbe, Koncz Trade Verbal Shots Over $5 Million Fine

[AllBoxingAD]

You just completely ignored every point I made. Why don't you actually go read the ESPN article about it. Kontz clearly said that it would have been included with the contract with usada which has no bearing whatsoever on the fighters contract. You guys really just love to ignore reality sometimes.

I already did read it.

Theres nothing that says that the fighter would still be able to sue for extra amounts because there is also a fighter contract. So the legal bindings stand.

Here is the quote from Koncz himself, check the highlight:

You can argue all day if [a penalty agreement] should be with the USADA contract or the main contract. What do you have to lose or gain in that argument? It's a simple thing -- if you fail, you pay the other guy $5 million. The issue is simple -- are you willing to agree to a penalty of $5 million? The drug-testing terms and any penalty, that's between the fighters not the promoters.

So he is basically saying the fighters cant use their promotional contract to find recourse in regards to drug testing penalties.

[Fetta]

Damn!! Koncz made a mistake! It happens. If either comes up dirty, money will be the last of their worries.

Page after page about a simple misunderstanding. And we are still in March!

Happy Spring

[Real Talk85]

from where did you get all this things you posted? assumption facts or riding other people post?

What are you talking about? That's the terms they agreed to. This is a non issue and has been explained many times already. They asked Arum, Manny and Roach why Floyd turned it down and that's what he said. Its in their contract that the dirty fighter is banned for 4 years (my mistake I said 5) and the fight is canceled. There is nothing to even argue about.

Manny and his team want to reduce that to a 5 mil penalty after the fact, no way.

[MindBat]

So Team Pac signs the contract they "didn't read" and now Knocz wants to add an extra stipulation if either fighter tests positive?

He's making it worse for his fighter if his fighter comes up dirty.

If Pac is dirty, he's banned for 4 years, is $5 mill short, AND is vilified by the media and the boxing public.

Koncz is trying to stir up a pot of embarrassment for his fighter.

[El-blanco]

This thread is way too big to get through, who would be enforcing the ban for four years? I dnt see how it's even possible.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

is this your best shot?

calm down relax take a deep breath and focus.

what was the question of the reporter to pac to which arum answered?

U calm down, im not the testing or ped expert im a boxing fan and i cant wait for the fight, all these BS arguments u guys keep trying to make, really makes u all look worse and scared.... lol fans are now interested in testing all of a sudden... years ago it was you guys saying let the commision do their jobs and pac was justified n walking away... and more BS.... u would think now that the fight was signed all the talks would be about how we think our pick will win, strategies, etc... but now the fight is here n ur pulling out new stunts.... ill let them handle the contract/testing part, while u guys look for wiggle room and pre excuses for what will happen on may 2nd. when pac man loses. go look at the arum interview yourself im not playing into this back n forth BS unless its over strategies or who i think will win...

[Rath]

What are you talking about? That's the terms they agreed to. This is a non issue and has been explained many times already. They asked Arum, Manny and Roach why Floyd turned it down and that's what he said. Its in their contract that the dirty fighter is banned for 4 years (my mistake I said 5) and the fight is canceled. There is nothing to even argue about.

Manny and his team want to reduce that to a 5 mil penalty after the fact, no way.

it is not in the contract per se

the 4 yrs ban is in the WADA code

i am not certain if there are clause in the contract that says one can cancel the fight if the other fails the test. if it is in the contract then fine and good the cancellation of fight is not by default i believe since and example eric morales was found doping yet the fight continues. it was not cancelled

now the terms that they agreed to either you are right and the reporter is also right (fighthype video clip) why is koncz bringing up this request when the contract is already agreed upon to which another poster says Pac is moving the goal post.

the reporter clearly said in his question for Pac and he said it not once or twice but i guess three times. his question was about the bet again i repeat about the bet the Pac made with Floyd with regards to drug testing and whoever fails will pay 5million. it was about the bet, the reporter never mentioned in his question anything about request demand offer or the word contract. only the word BET

so where did you get all that you posted earlier?

[Rath]

U calm down, im not the testing or ped expert im a boxing fan and i cant wait for the fight, all these BS arguments u guys keep trying to make, really makes u all look worse and scared.... lol fans are now interested in testing all of a sudden... years ago it was you guys saying let the commision do their jobs and pac was justified n walking away... and more BS.... u would think now that the fight was signed all the talks would be about how we think our pick will win, strategies, etc... but now the fight is here n ur pulling out new stunts.... ill let them handle the contract/testing part, while u guys look for wiggle room and pre excuses for what will happen on may 2nd. when pac man loses. go look at the arum interview yourself im not playing into this back n forth BS unless its over strategies or who i think will win...

all that blah blah blah and disgrace but evading my question?

what did the reporter in the floydhype video clip ask Pac to which arum answered?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

all that blah blah blah and disgrace but evading my question?

What did the reporter in the floydhype video clip ask pac to which arum answered?

i have no idea go watch it yourself, who do u pick to win?

[bigjavi973]

$$$ penalty > 4 year ban

They know floyd & pac aint gonna fight for 4 more years.