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  • Scipio2009
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    #61
    Originally posted by megas30
    The greatest thing about Floyd vs Manny is that it will open the door to many super fights.
    not really, tbh. Haymon will come with the US money, so if a promoter doesn't do business with Haymon, most of these superfights won't happen. Beyond that, you still have the various factors to navigate (sanctioning bodies, TV situations, promoter issues, etc).

    Stevenson-Kovalev is happening because 1)it's one of the rare chances to truly unify a division and 2)both fighters will likely end up making more than triple what they've made for any other fight prior.

    point to another superfight that's on the horizon where folks would have to work together?

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    • Scipio2009
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      #62
      Originally posted by MDPopescu
      If they make Kovalev-Stevenson it must be a PPV fight. The fight should take place in Quebec (because that's where the gate money is), but such a fight should be aired by both HBO and Al Haymon's TV channel... (HBO would not give up it's new star)...
      Haymon's PPV partner is Showtime. Beyond that, HBO gets a seat at the table if they're willing to pay full fare. (No idea of what the deal was but, come time for the talk to really heat up, Kovalev would've fought four times on HBO since signing the deal doubt that HBO locked him into a deal longer than that).

      Kathy Duva would be doing a real disservice to her fighter if she let HBO short her guy on the most most financial successful and biggest fight of his career.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Deeznuts
        Quebec? Fk that bring it to Vegas. Why does Kovakev always have to go to enemy turf just to fight? He deserves to choose a location at this point
        Where is Kovalev a draw? Say what you want, Stevenson sells a ton of tickets in Montreal.

        Kovalev has one chance to alter the calculus; draw a massive audience for Kovalev-Mohammedi, wherever it ends up being booked. No one knows who Mohammedi is, so any tickets sold for that fight will be due to Kovalev's name being on the marquee.

        If he draws 7,000 people at so-so prices, he camp shuts their mouth and the fight gets taken to wherever it can bring in the most money.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          Of course they should fight this year. What I'm saying is, this fight could have easily lost its luster had Kov lost either of his fights after Adonis blatantly ducked him last year.

          If you're referring to yesterdays thread, then yes I still stand by what I said. Stevenson has lost more than he's gained since signing with Haymon. He had the option to fight Hops/Pascal/Kov and he ducked all three to fight 3 much lesser named opponents for less money. Lets also not forget that there's no guarantee Stevenson/Kov actually happens with both fighters being contracted to rival networks. I don't see HBO letting Kov fight on Showtime. They've invested lots of time and money building him up to where he is now.
          Stevenson-Hopkins would've been a massive fight (likely in Montreal, Vegas, or New York), Stevenson-Pascal would've been an epic fight in Canada (might be pushing it, but that fight might be massive enough to put at Olympic Stadium).

          As long as Stevenson didn't get knocked off (and held onto his title), he was due for a big fight, with three viable options to get there; all three options worth significantly more than the share of $3m that HBO was initially offering before the move.

          If Showtime puts up $5m for the fight, which isn't out of this realm, HBO has a decision to make; put the money up or step aside.

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            #65
            Originally posted by NEETzsche
            stevenson will get a smaller cut of the purse now and it has become much clearer that kovalev will win

            kovalev fought hopkins for like $500k(?) and likely would have fought stevenson for around the same. just now he fought pascal for like $3.25m and will expect more against stevenson
            Kovalev doesn't sell anywhere near the tickets (or bring in anywhere near the money) that Stevenson does in Montreal at any other venue on the planet, and that's without much question.

            Kovalev-Mohammedi MAYBE sells 5,000-6,000 seats in Montreal. You take Kovalev-Mohammedi anywhere in the world and I doubt that there is a single place where they'd get a $1m gate.

            Stevenson-Mohammedi (strictly hypothetically) nearly sells out the Bell Centre in Montreal.

            levels to this ****

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              #66
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Where is Kovalev a draw? Say what you want, Stevenson sells a ton of tickets in Montreal.

              Kovalev has one chance to alter the calculus; draw a massive audience for Kovalev-Mohammedi, wherever it ends up being booked. No one knows who Mohammedi is, so any tickets sold for that fight will be due to Kovalev's name being on the marquee.

              If he draws 7,000 people at so-so prices, he camp shuts their mouth and the fight gets taken to wherever it can bring in the most money.
              Who draws the most viewers? Stevenson or Kovalev?

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                #67
                You guys don't get it... Stevenson established himself by storming the division in 2013... Then they played a nice business model and let the auctions climb... Let the contenders having at it while doing the minimum... And now they're laughing... Pascal will have to wait, Hopkins will have to wait, Beterbiev has to get some mileage ... In any scenario, Stevenson will be rich, very rich when that fight happens... And he's one step away from the the eternal fame instead of having to risk his lineal 2 or 3 times with the potential stumble in every of them... They played the cards right... Impressive...
                Last edited by Superbee; 03-18-2015, 02:57 AM. Reason: Typo... damn typo ...

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                  #68
                  Why do people say the fight is bigger now?

                  Kovalev is putting up the same numbers as he did this time last year, while Stevenson is putting up 292k.

                  It was an anticipated FOTY in 2014, back then it was viewed as 50-50 but now Kovalev is the clear favorite, I don't see on what level that it's bigger now.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Superbee
                    You guys don't get it... Stevenson established himself by storming the division in 2013... Then they played a nice business model and let the auctions climb... Let the contenders having at it while doing the minimum... And now they're laughing... Pascal will have to wait, Hopkins will have to wait, Beterbiev has to get some mileage ... In any scenario, Stevenson will be rich, very rich when that fight happens... And he's one step away from the the eternal fame instead of having to risk his lineal 2 or 3 times with the potential stumble in every of them... They played the cards right... Impressive...
                    Stormed the division?

                    He beat one ****ing guy. Kovalev is the only LHW who stormed the division in 2013.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Kovalev doesn't sell anywhere near the tickets (or bring in anywhere near the money) that Stevenson does in Montreal at any other venue on the planet, and that's without much question.

                      Kovalev-Mohammedi MAYBE sells 5,000-6,000 seats in Montreal. You take Kovalev-Mohammedi anywhere in the world and I doubt that there is a single place where they'd get a $1m gate.

                      Stevenson-Mohammedi (strictly hypothetically) nearly sells out the Bell Centre in Montreal.

                      levels to this ****
                      Stevenson-Fonfara did 6,342 in Montreal. Stevenson just returned 294k on Showtime v Sukhotsky.

                      Stevenson is really not the draw you think he is, and your "levels to this ****" comment looks silly.

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