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  • BattlingNelson
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    #41
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    This whole idea that Stevenson got what he wanted is total bull****. If the fight is bigger now, it has nothing to do with anything that punk did. It's all because of Kovalev. Superduck has done nothing but tarnish his name and reputation since ducking Kovalev. He has screwed himself out of two other fights and lost all his career momentum.

    He didn't go to Haymon to make the fight bigger. He isn't getting what he wanted. What he wanted was to make easier money against no hopers and hope that Kovalev lost. If he fights Kovalev now, it's because Kovalev is giving him no damn choice and has taken all his other options, including his ability to defend his belt. To disregard the past year and a half or so as "Stevenson letting the fight become bigger" is completely dishonest. It is a flat out lie. He should not be excused for ducking because of a made up reason like that.

    But he will be defended, is being defended, and that's the defense people are making up, knowing damn well it isn't true.
    Well said. Dunn is establishing himself as the undisputed president of the Stevenson Defense Force. Arguably the saddest outfit on boxingscene.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Well said. Dunn is establishing himself as the undisputed president of the Stevenson Defense Force. Arguably the saddest outfit on boxingscene.
      No, Dunn is just eviscerating Deevel916's very weak argument and Bojangles 1st sentence in this post is the nail in the coffin.

      A lot of posters are mad that what Stevenson did worked out for him, assuming he beats Bika. He will have gotten more for the Kov fight by taking high paid crap fights while Kov had the tougher road.

      Just be adults: admit that you are mad Stevenson (through Haymon) exploited the system.

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      • AllBoxingAD
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        #43
        Originally posted by Deevel916
        Of course they should fight this year. What I'm saying is, this fight could have easily lost its luster had Kov lost either of his fights after Adonis blatantly ducked him last year.

        If you're referring to yesterdays thread, then yes I still stand by what I said. Stevenson has lost more than he's gained since signing with Haymon. He had the option to fight Hops/Pascal/Kov and he ducked all three to fight 3 much lesser named opponents for less money. Lets also not forget that there's no guarantee Stevenson/Kov actually happens with both fighters being contracted to rival networks. I don't see HBO letting Kov fight on Showtime. They've invested lots of time and money building him up to where he is now.
        I havent heard that Kovalev has an exclusive deal with HBO. So legally they cant stop it. However, they obviously can try to do it with backdoor handshake deals.

        Not to mention the fact that Duva clearly has animosity towards SHO to say the least. She's an HBO lifer I think.

        Hypothetically, if the fight doesnt happen in the fall because of Team Kov doesnt want it on SHO, will everyone accuse Kov of ducking Stevenson???

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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          No, Dunn is just eviscerating Deevel916's very weak argument and Bojangles 1st sentence in this post is the nail in the coffin.

          A lot of posters are mad that what Stevenson did worked out for him, assuming he beats Bika. He will have gotten more for the Kov fight by taking high paid crap fights while Kov had the tougher road.

          Just be adults: admit that you are mad Stevenson (through Haymon) exploited the system.
          I remember the arguments. Aducknis ducked Kovalev so he could fight Hopkins. Then when Hopkins (badass as he is) signed to be krushed, the SDF said that Aquaknis would fight a Canadian moneyspinner against Pascal.

          No spin can save the SDF. Not then. Not now.

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          • Hougigo
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            #45
            I feel like I've heard this before..... And yea, this fight is bigger now, but mostly because of the body of work of one person.... You can decide who that is

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            • TheCleaner
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              #46
              disgusting of stevenson to call himself a champ and manage to duck pascal, bhop and kov, who have all now fought each other. Much respect to them 3 for taking the fights.

              Why the hell has adonis avoided a huge domestic fight with pascal? why not fight bhop when he had a title, no place to run from Kov now. Adonis superquack stevenson

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              • Hougigo
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                #47
                Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
                I havent heard that Kovalev has an exclusive deal with HBO. So legally they cant stop it. However, they obviously can try to do it with backdoor handshake deals.

                Not to mention the fact that Duva clearly has animosity towards SHO to say the least. She's an HBO lifer I think.

                Hypothetically, if the fight doesnt happen in the fall because of Team Kov doesnt want it on SHO, will everyone accuse Kov of ducking Stevenson???
                They do have one, but I also don't think they would do anything to jeprodize a future with him and would try to work something out. Noes not the time to be like, we'll were else can you go if you don't sign with us?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  I remember the arguments. Aducknis ducked Kovalev so he could fight Hopkins. Then when Hopkins (badass as he is) signed to be krushed, the SDF said that Aquaknis would fight a Canadian moneyspinner against Pascal.

                  No spin can save the SDF. Not then. Not now.
                  I surely didn't say anything of the sort. If someone did, you need to take it up with them.

                  Bottom line, if Stevenson and Kovalev fight this year and Stevenson wins, nothing that happened from Feb 2014 on will truly matter. It will be a legit win over a top 10 p4p opponent. Of course, there will be posters that desperately cling to the past as a way to soothe their anger and diminish the win.

                  Here's me hoping you will not be one of those posters.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    No, Dunn is just eviscerating Deevel916's very weak argument and Bojangles 1st sentence in this post is the nail in the coffin.

                    A lot of posters are mad that what Stevenson did worked out for him, assuming he beats Bika. He will have gotten more for the Kov fight by taking high paid crap fights while Kov had the tougher road.

                    Just be adults: admit that you are mad Stevenson (through Haymon) exploited the system.
                    Let's be adults: is this your best idea about boxing at large, as an "adult" fan of the sport?

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                    • NEETzsche
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                      #50
                      stevenson will get a smaller cut of the purse now and it has become much clearer that kovalev will win

                      kovalev fought hopkins for like $500k(?) and likely would have fought stevenson for around the same. just now he fought pascal for like $3.25m and will expect more against stevenson
                      Last edited by NEETzsche; 03-17-2015, 10:18 AM.

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