Comments Thread For: Team Stevenson Eye Kovalev Fall Clash in Quebec

[Deevel916]

True, but what does that have to with your question?

Should they fight this year, signing with Haymon will get him more money for the Kov fight, which was his objective. It also got him great money for 2 easy tune ups on Showtime by signing to them exclusively.

Kov got an exclusive HBO deal and increased his profile tremendously by thoroughly beating bhop and pascal. He will get more when he and Stevenson fight again if they fight.

If they fight this year, fans will have waited no more than 18 months while the fight got bigger. They got 2 great fights, it just was Kov instead of Stevenson. Is that really a big deal for you as a boxing fan?

Of course they should fight this year. What I'm saying is, this fight could have easily lost its luster had Kov lost either of his fights after Adonis blatantly ducked him last year.

If you're referring to yesterdays thread, then yes I still stand by what I said. Stevenson has lost more than he's gained since signing with Haymon. He had the option to fight Hops/Pascal/Kov and he ducked all three to fight 3 much lesser named opponents for less money. Lets also not forget that there's no guarantee Stevenson/Kov actually happens with both fighters being contracted to rival networks. I don't see HBO letting Kov fight on Showtime. They've invested lots of time and money building him up to where he is now.

[bojangles1987]

What does focusing on what Adonis did and his not fighting Kov mean if they eventually fight? If they fight this year and Stevenson wins, does that somehow take away from the win?

This whole idea that Stevenson got what he wanted is total bull****. If the fight is bigger now, it has nothing to do with anything that punk did. It's all because of Kovalev. Superduck has done nothing but tarnish his name and reputation since ducking Kovalev. He has screwed himself out of two other fights and lost all his career momentum.

He didn't go to Haymon to make the fight bigger. He isn't getting what he wanted. What he wanted was to make easier money against no hopers and hope that Kovalev lost. If he fights Kovalev now, it's because Kovalev is giving him no damn choice and has taken all his other options, including his ability to defend his belt. To disregard the past year and a half or so as "Stevenson letting the fight become bigger" is completely dishonest. It is a flat out lie. He should not be excused for ducking because of a made up reason like that.

But he will be defended, is being defended, and that's the defense people are making up, knowing damn well it isn't true.

[Deevel916]

This whole idea that Stevenson got what he wanted is total bull****. If the fight is bigger now, it has nothing to do with anything that punk did. It's all because of Kovalev. Superduck has done nothing but tarnish his name and reputation since ducking Kovalev. He has screwed himself out of two other fights and lost all his career momentum.

He didn't go to Haymon to make the fight bigger. He isn't getting what he wanted. What he wanted was to make easier money against no hopers and hope that Kovalev lost. If he fights Kovalev now, it's because Kovalev is giving him no damn choice and has taken all his other options, including his ability to defend his belt. To disregard the past year and a half or so as "Stevenson letting the fight become bigger" is completely dishonest. It is a flat out lie. He should not be excused for ducking because of a made up reason like that.

But he will be defended, is being defended, and that's the defense people are making up, knowing damn well it isn't true.

Don't even attempt to respond to this Big Dunn. There's nothing you can say! LOL.

Just spare yourself the embarrassment.

[The Big Dunn]

Of course they should fight this year. What I'm saying is, this fight could have easily lost its luster had Kov lost either of his fights after Adonis blatantly ducked him last year.

If you're referring to yesterdays thread, then yes I still stand by what I said. Stevenson has lost more than he's gained since signing with Haymon. He had the option to fight Hops/Pascal/Kov and he ducked all three to fight 3 much lesser named opponents for less money. Lets also not forget that there's no guarantee Stevenson/Kov actually happens with both fighters being contracted to rival networks. I don't see HBO letting Kov fight on Showtime. They've invested lots of time and money building him up to where he is now.

Yes, but that didn't happen.

Stevenson didn't need those fights to prove he should be in with Kov, Kov needed those fights to establish himself as the most deserving for a shot at the title. Kov wasn't considered the best LHW other than Stevenson in Feb 2014 when Stevenson signed with Haymon. Kov eliminating bhop/pascal has made the fight bigger.

SO while you disagree with the move financially, it turned out to be the right one. Yes, Stevenson lost some of the things you said. Should he beat Kov, wont those things be returned?

They do not have to let him fight on SHowtime. He can go to NBC, which has a relationship with HBO, or they can do the fight on PPV. Since its a very winnable fight where Kov would be the favorite, why would they stand in the way?

[The Big Dunn]

This whole idea that Stevenson got what he wanted is total bull****. If the fight is bigger now, it has nothing to do with anything that punk did. It's all because of Kovalev. Superduck has done nothing but tarnish his name and reputation since ducking Kovalev. He has screwed himself out of two other fights and lost all his career momentum.

He didn't go to Haymon to make the fight bigger. He isn't getting what he wanted. What he wanted was to make easier money against no hopers and hope that Kovalev lost. If he fights Kovalev now, it's because Kovalev is giving him no damn choice and has taken all his other options, including his ability to defend his belt. To disregard the past year and a half or so as "Stevenson letting the fight become bigger" is completely dishonest. It is a flat out lie. He should not be excused for ducking because of a made up reason like that.

But he will be defended, is being defended, and that's the defense people are making up, knowing damn well it isn't true.

At least you are adult enough to plainly state the bold and that it bothers you. That's why I suspect Deevel916 is mad as well. Signing with Haymon got him exactly what he wanted.

Yes, the fight got bigger because of Kov. No one said otherwise.

I never said or implied Stevenson made the fight bigger. I didn't say he went to Haymon to make the fight bigger, I said that was the result. Please, do not make something up.

You didn't answer the question. If they fight this year and Stevenson wins, does that somehow take away from the win?

[The Big Dunn]

Don't even attempt to respond to this Big Dunn. There's nothing you can say! LOL.

Just spare yourself the embarrassment.

Don't be upset that I do not agree with your argument in the other thread or in your post here by simply pointing out the truth.

You can agree to disagree, but don't be scared to have your points refuted.

[Deevel916]

Don't be upset that I do not agree with your argument in the other thread or in your post here by simply pointing out the truth.

You can agree to disagree, but don't be scared to have your points refuted.

You were owned yesterday and you will get owned again. Just give up. You clearly stated yesterday that what Stevenson has gained THUS FAR has been an economic gain when that is far from true! You lost. Game over.

[The Big Dunn]

You were owned yesterday and you will get owned again. Just give up. You clearly stated yesterday that what Stevenson has gained THUS FAR has been an economic gain when that is far from true! You lost. Game over.

Declaring yourself the winner, running away, and asking others to run away shows that in fact its just the opposite.

Should they fight and Stevenson wins, it doesn't matter what happened before. Knowing that is your real issue.

[bojangles1987]

At least you are adult enough to plainly state the bold and that it bothers you. That's why I suspect Deevel916 is mad as well. Signing with Haymon got him exactly what he wanted.

Yes, the fight got bigger because of Kov. No one said otherwise.

I never said or implied Stevenson made the fight bigger. I didn't say he went to Haymon to make the fight bigger, I said that was the result. Please, do not make something up.

You didn't answer the question. If they fight this year and Stevenson wins, does that somehow take away from the win?

Of course it doesn't. But it doesn't excuse him, either.

[The Big Dunn]

Of course it doesn't. But it doesn't excuse him, either.

There is no excuse. Stevenson made a choice: easy money over better opponents. He lost fans (I haven't watched the last 2 fights), ratings dip, respect because of this choice. That's on him.

If he beats Kov at this point, where Kov unquestionably established himself as the best LHW contender and in some minds has established himself as the best LHW in the world, then his not facing him in early 2014 will not really matter.