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  • SplitSecond
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    #371
    Originally posted by Marvellous1
    How do you determine who "genuinely tried" and who didn't?
    when a guy is visibly drained it's usually not difficult to tell if you've watched their past fights, and then there's the jumping weightclasses right after

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    • Evol
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      #372
      Originally posted by Marvellous1
      So testing or not testing comes down to a boxer's standing in the sport? Pacquiao or anyone else could walk away without su****ion purely because they're a "big star"? That's a weird attitude. I could understand if he was being asked to do something Mayweather wasn't prepared to do, but it was for both of them. It's not about making an effort, I think it's more about a change in attitude, especially after that last Marquez fight. Ater that, Pacquiao himself stated that more stringent testing "was good for boxing". A shame he didn't feel that way, or according to you, had too much ego to think that way in '09.

      u're not reading it right, pac and floyd was just about the same in popularity at the time. If floyd was trying to dictate the demands I have no problems with manny doing the same. Pac didn't walked because Floyd asked for a test. The cut off date wasn't agreed on. PAC was willing to give blood. I have no problems with manny trying dictate the cut off because he's just as big as floyd. Now if pac straight out decline testing, then yes, I would be su****ious, but that didn't happen did It?

      And yes it's about ego, 2009 pac was on top on the world. After he got ko from marquez, reality sets in. U call that a change in attitude. Well um that's what I said ego right? lol

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      • Marvellous1
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        #373
        Originally posted by Evol
        u're not reading it right, pac and floyd was just about the same in popularity at the time. If floyd was trying to dictate the demands I have no problems with manny doing the same. Pac didn't walked because Floyd asked for a test. The cut off date wasn't agreed on. PAC was willing to give blood. I have no problems with manny trying dictate the cut off because he's just as big as floyd. Now if pac straight out decline testing, then yes, I would be su****ious, but that didn't happen did It?

        And yes it's about ego, 2009 pac was on top on the world. After he got ko from marquez, reality sets in. U call that a change in attitude. Well um that's what I said ego right? lol
        Not really. Attitude, for me, is not thinking more stringent testing is good for boxing then realising it is. Ego is KNOWING it's good for boxing but not doing it because you think you're too important. I think for Pacquiao it was the former rather than the latter (even though it's a popular rationale).

        Pacquiao wanted an insane weight penalty Mayweather just accepted it (now we know Pacquiao had failed to make too). That's one big demand each with vastly different responses. I hate to go back to it, but Evander Holyfield showed how such things should be dealt with (that favours the boxing fan, anyway).

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #374
          Originally posted by creekrat77
          With your logic, Pac's team should be suing every single schmuck who has said a cross word about his career. Suing Floyd was about taking a stand against a coward who was claiming his absence from fighting Pacquiao was all about Pacquiao being a chronic steroid user. Paulie didn't initially defame Pacquiao before Floyd made all these BS allegations. Paulie came out and was repeating a slew of bullcr*p that Floyd and his team started. Paulie is small ****in potatoes. His opinion whether good or bad has no impact on Pacquiao's celebrity. If he were to go on air saying it having gained a huge audience or following that of Floyd, then Pac's camp would be liable to sue. But in this case, Paulie is just a washed up has been running his mouth. He has no clout or influence when it comes to turning people away from Manny Pacquiao.
          No.

          Using my logic......

          Pacquiao should have sued EVERYBODY who was actively defaming him at that point in time.

          IF defamation was the real motivation for suing Mayweather, then OBVIOUSLY Paulie would have been included, because he defamed Pacquiao much worse than Mayweather did.

          The motivation behind the lawsuit, was OBVIOUSLY not defamation, otherwise Pacquiao would have sued EVERYBODY who defamed him, common-sense really.

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          • radioraheem
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            #375
            Originally posted by Rath
            Can I ask you a question?

            when two action writers send their story to a single publisher, does the publisher print two identical books with two different authors?

            now have your brain checked.
            You have the gall to argue/debate with that kind of thinking?
            Are you ******?

            The same lab tests the samples for results. Your example would only have relevance if the samples were sent to TWO separate labs. But this is not the case.

            You've proven your ******ity. Thanks!

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            • tomhawq
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              #376
              Originally posted by jas
              Fl0mos bringing up past

              Nothing new here
              they're cult members.

              most people use common sense and put everything in perspective. five years and they found nothing on pacquiao. instead, their hero can't produce his testing results and preferred to pay millions to settle his case.

              that's why i don't read these floydiots' posts. don't know why they keep destroying their reps just to defend a known roider.

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              • GRUSTLER
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                #377
                Originally posted by Evol
                Just like how Oscar called pac out at 147 but somehow pac was blamed for "draning" Oscar. And Oscar was the a-side at the time. Hard to believe the b-side force and drained the a-side.
                I always stated that Manny is not to blame for Oscar. That was all De La Hoya.

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #378
                  Originally posted by Evol
                  So how is asking for a cut off means he won't be tested randomly?
                  Because Pacquiao wanted to know when he would be tested. This is public knowledge in archived articles on the internet.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #379
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    Are you ******?

                    The same lab tests the samples for results. Your example would only have relevance if the samples were sent to TWO separate labs. But this is not the case.

                    You've proven your ******ity. Thanks!
                    I keep telling Rath the same thing.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-17-2015, 04:24 PM.

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                      #380
                      Originally posted by Marvellous1
                      So testing or not testing comes down to a boxer's standing in the sport? Pacquiao or anyone else could walk away without su****ion purely because they're a "big star"? That's a weird attitude. I could understand if he was being asked to do something Mayweather wasn't prepared to do, but it was for both of them. It's not about making an effort, I think it's more about a change in attitude, especially after that last Marquez fight. Ater that, Pacquiao himself stated that more stringent testing "was good for boxing". A shame he didn't feel that way, or according to you, had too much ego to think that way in '09.
                      That's the thing. They are basically cosigning Manny and his ego killing the fight that made us bicker back and forth for 5 years.

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