USADA vs. VADA : Anti-Doping Duel

[HeroBando]

I am french, english isn't my first languages so I dont understand everything but yes I agree with this point : In boxing theyre hired by the fighters and their promoters, which is a joke and a massive conflict of interest
That's why i'm saying it should be the WBC-IBF-WBO-WBA who's should agree the WADA protocol for every boxer in the world.

Absolutely, either that or via a national boxing commission, which sadly doesnt exist in the Us. But as long its paid for by the promoters/fighters, its just a PR exercise

[sicko]

Usada just has a long record of irregularities, given how recently they got involved in boxing. Only 1 bust, a shot, non Gbp promoted Morales, who was then allowed to compete

Not many fighters use USADA because IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE so if not many are using them other than Mayweather because he can afford it, how many bust do you honestly expect them to make?

My argument is not for either but I think fans look absolutely RIDICULOUS trying to discredit one and Stick Up For the other based on the fighters they like and don't like personally.

[sicko]

I dont know what your point is. No agency in boxing has busted a chemist, its beyond their purview. Only one agency has busted cheating boxers and had fights canceled, Vada. The point there was theyre not beholden to Conte if theyre busting his high profile client

So one focus on just the Boxers while the other Focus on ALL OF IT but you think the one that only focus on the Boxers Reputable?

USADA took down Victor Conte and did the investigation on Lance Armstrong and uncovered a lot! While VADA claim to fame is taking down...BERTO?

[HeroBando]

Not many fighters use USADA because IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE so if not many are using them other than Mayweather because he can afford it, how many bust do you honestly expect them to make?

My argument is not for either but I think fans look absolutely RIDICULOUS trying to discredit one and Stick Up For the other based on the fighters they like and don't like personally.

That also interesting that theyre significantly more expensive than the more effective Vada. The TS listed some of the Usada irregularities in boxing, which is a lot given theyve never stopped a cheat from entering the ring

[HeroBando]

So one focus on just the Boxers while the other Focus on ALL OF IT but you think the one that only focus on the Boxers Reputable?

USADA took down Victor Conte and did the investigation on Lance Armstrong and uncovered a lot! While VADA claim to fame is taking down...BERTO?

Damn man, when will it sink in? In cycling or track, these guys are hired by the regulatory agencies. In boxing theyre hired by the fighters and their promoters. Cant you see the difference? Its super obvious. Imagine it was Lance hiring them to test him. You think he woulda come up dirty? Of course not, thatd be a joke

[gee73]

Usada just has a long record of irregularities, given how recently they got involved in boxing. Only 1 bust, a shot, non Gbp promoted Morales, who was then allowed to compete

You are blaming USADA that the Morales fight happened although tested positive before? They've done their job, Morales tested and turned up positive and that's when their job ends.

I wonder about the "long record of irregularities". Mostly when something like "irregular" happens, like testing that didn't take place, it's because they didn't get their money.

[sicko]

Doesnt matter what I want, none of them catch guys like Memo cause they dont have the power to do so. Best they can do is catch dirty fighters and notify the commission, which only Vada has proven willing

You do know Memo was part of the BALCO Scandal Right?

You wanna know why Memo and Conte are dibbling and dabbling in boxing...is because the sport of boxing itself is CORRUPT with NO GOVERNING BODY. Only in BOXING can these guys openly work with Conte and Memo and the only backlash is mostly from FANS, other sports that WOULD NOT be allowed PERIOD!

So should we blame USADA for boxing Overall Corruption As Well?

[radioraheem]

That also interesting that theyre significantly more expensive than the more effective Vada. The TS listed some of the Usada irregularities in boxing, which is a lot given theyve never stopped a cheat from entering the ring

There's a reason why VADA is cheaper, and it's a significant one. But you wouldn't know because you buy into the biased crusade.

USADA sanctions a number of athletes year-round. And they are the official anti-doping organisation sponsored by the United States. Similar to how UKAD is the official anti-doping agency for the United Kingdom. The USADA sanctions can be found on their website.

http://www.usada.org/testing/results/sanctions/

[HeroBando]

You are blaming USADA that the Morales fight happened although tested positive before? They've done their job, Morales tested and turned up positive and that's when their job ends.

I wonder about the "long record of irregularities". Mostly when something like "irregular" happens, like testing that didn't take place, it's because they didn't get their money.

Per Dan Rafael, the commission was told Morales' B sample would not be in before the fight. Per Keith Idec, Usada already had 3 failed tests at that point

[HeroBando]

You do know Memo was part of the BALCO Scandal Right?

You wanna know why Memo and Conte are dibbling and dabbling in boxing...is because the sport of boxing itself is CORRUPT with NO GOVERNING BODY. Only in BOXING can these guys openly work with Conte and Memo and the only backlash is mostly from FANS, other sports that WOULD NOT be allowed PERIOD!

So should we blame USADA for boxing Overall Corruption As Well?

Does this mean you grasp my point? So no more silly Lance comparisons, no referring to track and fiekd?