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  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    Are you kidding me? USADA has a stellar international reputation, even VADA's Founder went on record admitting this much. All athletics have corruption by the way, not just boxing. And some sports hide their corruption much better than boxing does.

    Here is another thing you don't even realise. If staff at USADA partakes in covering up tests or putting their reputation on the line for an athlete, they risk guaranteed jail time. Because they are sponsored by the United States government. Whereas VADA, they are independently sponsored and not affiliated with any local, state, or national government.
    Theyre not sponsored by the government in boxing. Theyre sponsored by the likes of Gbp and Floyd lol. Once again, no cover up. Failed A sample > notify promoter> inadvertent use or the****utic exemption

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    • Originally posted by wiz1030 View Post
      I'm not joining the flame war or anything, but I have a legitimate question here...

      Has USADA ever caught any boxers doping/using banned substances?
      Yes, Erik Morales.

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      • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        Theyre not sponsored by the government in boxing. Theyre sponsored by the likes of Gbp and Floyd lol. Once again, no cover up. Failed A sample > notify promoter> inadvertent use or the****utic exemption
        As an organisation, they are sponsored by the United States government. What Golden Boy or any Promoter pays is a service fee.

        By the way, when Peterson had a failed A-sample, VADA didn't inform NSAC or anyone until the last minute, when his B-sample returned. For many weeks Peterson and VADA knew he had a failed A-sample. And it was because Peterson demanded the secrecy til the B-sample returned. At the time, VADA gave the athlete this kind of power. They're removed such power from their rules now.

        Another thing I know you didn't know.
        Last edited by radioraheem; 03-13-2015, 03:43 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Rath View Post
          Why are you afraid of the VADA test Floyd, are you hiding something?

          Take the VADA test Floyd or you will forever be branded as a cheat.

          Pac has already been VADA tested before now he is going to be USADA tested.

          You have been USADA tested before so now take the VADA test Floyd roid.
          looks like we have found the #1 excuse that will be used May 3rd!!!!

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          • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            Yes, Erik Morales.
            Yup, told the commission the B sample would come in too late to stop the fight so the cheat was allowed to fight. The show must go on

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            • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
              Yes, Erik Morales.
              Appreciate the response. Anymore that you guys know of? Go ahead and list em

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              • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                As an organisation, they are sponsored by the United States government. What Golden Boy or any Promoter pays is a service fee.

                By the way, when Peterson had a failed A-sample, VADA didn't inform NSAC or anyone until the last minute, when his B-sample returned. And it was because Peterson demanded that. At the time, VADA gave the athlete this kind of power. They're removed such power from their rules now.

                Another thing I know you didn't know.
                The takeaway there is that the commission was notified of the failed B sample and cheater prevented from entering the ring, unlike in Usadas SOLE bust. But thats just one of their irregularities

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                • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  The takeaway there is that the commission was notified of the failed B sample and cheater prevented from entering the ring, unlike in Usadas SOLE bust. But thats just one of their irregularities
                  The takeaway is that if the B-sample didn't return at the last minute, the fight would have happened despite a failed A-sample being known for many weeks.

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                  • Originally posted by wiz1030 View Post
                    Appreciate the response. Anymore that you guys know of? Go ahead and list em
                    In professional boxing, it ends there. In other sports though, mostly Olympics, the athletes can be seen here:

                    http://www.usada.org/testing/results/sanctions/

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                    • I wouldn't trust the one that a convicted ped supplier recommends and uses for his own clients.

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